chriskchris
New Member
Hi everybody,
I thought I would share some results with others of my high E2 situation.
Have been on Cypionate for years; cycling on and off at times on HCG with suspected secondary hypogonadism that began when I was around 14 (I am 40-years old now).
This year I made quite a nice discovery: that I feel better by taking only HCG. For whatever reason I could never attain good results with energy and sexual by taking testosterone alone. However with HCG that is significantly improved, but it has never lasted long and always seemed to come and go in cycles.
My dose was 100 MG of Testosterone every 10-days or so; with 500 miu of HCG aprox. 3x per week.
With this dose my E2 became 295 pmol/L or around 80 pg/ML! That is the highest ever and exceeded when I was on clomid and felt terrible a number of years ago.
The symptoms: significantly less energy, very low penis sensitivity, inability to get an erection even with PDE5 inhibitors.
I have always had very low, usually the lowest on the reference range when it comes to SHBG so perhaps I am more sensitive to injections then others as my free androgen index is usually 'high' off the chart despite a very modest testosterone dosage. E2 has never been out of control other then on Clomid when I started.
The good news I suppose is that I know HCG is the drug that makes my body work. The flip side is that when HCG works, it really works. Libido goes off the chart and I can get erections at times without any help from PDE5 inhibitors (something that has been impossible since I was a teenager so it is meaningful.) Also the testosterone "flex" feeling when you work out is substantial. However when E2 is high, I am sure these positive side effects of the two drugs totally dissipates and it feels like I am injecting saline or worse.
I have reduced my dose to 80 MG per week and after coming across a blood survey by valued forum Dr Justin Saya, decided to toggle my HCG to every 3rd day at 500 miu rather then EOD.
I will do another blood test is a couple weeks or so at a private clinic and report back.
Again, thanks for all those who put their inputs onto this forum and the team running the site. I have used this site countless time over the past decade for my own health benefits as information is rather scarce.
I thought I would share some results with others of my high E2 situation.
Have been on Cypionate for years; cycling on and off at times on HCG with suspected secondary hypogonadism that began when I was around 14 (I am 40-years old now).
This year I made quite a nice discovery: that I feel better by taking only HCG. For whatever reason I could never attain good results with energy and sexual by taking testosterone alone. However with HCG that is significantly improved, but it has never lasted long and always seemed to come and go in cycles.
My dose was 100 MG of Testosterone every 10-days or so; with 500 miu of HCG aprox. 3x per week.
With this dose my E2 became 295 pmol/L or around 80 pg/ML! That is the highest ever and exceeded when I was on clomid and felt terrible a number of years ago.
The symptoms: significantly less energy, very low penis sensitivity, inability to get an erection even with PDE5 inhibitors.
I have always had very low, usually the lowest on the reference range when it comes to SHBG so perhaps I am more sensitive to injections then others as my free androgen index is usually 'high' off the chart despite a very modest testosterone dosage. E2 has never been out of control other then on Clomid when I started.
The good news I suppose is that I know HCG is the drug that makes my body work. The flip side is that when HCG works, it really works. Libido goes off the chart and I can get erections at times without any help from PDE5 inhibitors (something that has been impossible since I was a teenager so it is meaningful.) Also the testosterone "flex" feeling when you work out is substantial. However when E2 is high, I am sure these positive side effects of the two drugs totally dissipates and it feels like I am injecting saline or worse.
I have reduced my dose to 80 MG per week and after coming across a blood survey by valued forum Dr Justin Saya, decided to toggle my HCG to every 3rd day at 500 miu rather then EOD.
I will do another blood test is a couple weeks or so at a private clinic and report back.
Again, thanks for all those who put their inputs onto this forum and the team running the site. I have used this site countless time over the past decade for my own health benefits as information is rather scarce.
