Defy Medical HCG Shortage?

[RumHam]

Just joined Defy and saw their email a couple hours ago that Empower won't be allowed to compound HCG anymore. Does this mean Defy will no longer offer HCG? Do they offer a non-compounded version (is that a thing)? New to a lot of this stuff but I'm hesitant to switch now if I can't get HCG. My local clinic has it but I wanted to switch to Defy...

 

[CKO]

I received the same notice. They're going to have to develop a workaround. As of now they generally don't write scripts for HCG out of state.

 

[Vince]

No compounding pharmacy (not even Empower) will be able to make hCG after Nov 5, 2021. The FDA threatened legal action. We will all have to get hCG called into regular pharmacies. Prices vary and I predict a shortage issue.

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[Graham]

With GoodRX I am looking at a 30-40 percent price increase for an equal amount of HCG that I have been getting through Defy. I imagine that will go up with the increased demand going that route.

 

[52hoosier]

Empower will allow you to order whatever you have left on your prescription. I ordered 4 vials this AM.

 

[Phil Goodman]

With GoodRX I am looking at a 30-40 percent price increase for an equal amount of HCG that I have been getting through Defy. I imagine that will go up with the increased demand going that route.

What brand? I guess I’ve been living under a rock because I didn’t even know that Pregnyl was discontinued earlier in the year. So that leaves only one manufacturer still making this stuff, right? Seems like they are really just doing away with it all together, which is pretty concerning.

 

[RumHam]

No compounding pharmacy (not even Empower) will be able to make hCG after Nov 5, 2021. The FDA threatened legal action. We will all have to get hCG called into regular pharmacies. Prices vary and I predict a shortage issue.

The FDA Ended Your Access to More Economical hCG and FSH - Page 4 - Excel Male Health Forum

UPDATE ON DECEMBER 1, 2021: The FDA has just made it a lot more difficult for couples seeking fertility to start a family. They have shut down the only affordable access to fertility hormones made by compounding pharmacies for over 40 years . All compounders were ordered to stop making...

www.excelmale.com

Are pharmacies generally willing to fill out of state prescriptions? Especially for something like HCG?

 

[Vince]

Are pharmacies generally willing to fill out of state prescriptions? Especially for something like HCG?

I really don't know. I've always used empower pharmacy HCG.

 

[Nelson Vergel]

Pregnyl was discontinued earlier in the year.

Really?

 

[Nelson Vergel]

Are pharmacies generally willing to fill out of state prescriptions? Especially for something like HCG?

The clinic calling in a prescription to your local pharmacy has to have a doctor with a license in your state.

 

[Vince]

The clinic calling in a prescription to your local pharmacy has to have a doctor with a license in your state.

Thanks for the info Nelson. I'll have to talk to my primary doctor and hopefully she'll provide a script for my pharmacy.

I feel bad for empower pharmacy, I've been really happy with their services and products.

 

[Brian52]

The clinic calling in a prescription to your local pharmacy has to have a doctor with a license in your state.

Empower said they can no longer fulfill HCG prescriptions. Who else can fulfill hcg prescription?

 

[Thegoalie39]

Empower said they can no longer fulfill HCG prescriptions. Who else can fulfill hcg prescription?

I thought the cutoff was November 4th?

 

[Nelson Vergel]

Yes, November 4

 

[goolapsh]

I’ve always found empower products very shady personally. There’s a post on Reddit where someone describes that they’ve received several FDA warnings because their products were tested for sterility and failed. They didn’t abide by certain rules that the FDA imposed on them to make their products safe for the consumer, and they failed at that too. They don’t third party test each batch of cream as well, which is the issue I had with them with creams. Defy and empower have a business relationship, and I had a terrible experience with defy, so I’m kind of glad to see them suffer a bit.

 

[Nelson Vergel]

I have been to Empower's new facilities and they are the most state-of-the-art manufacturing facility in the compounding industry. They spent over 35 million dollars in a brand new facility that was just opened this past August 2021.

Instead of concentrating on Empower or Defy, everyone should be concentrating on the source of the problem: The FDA.

 

[Milad Zadeh]

So what’s the solution once my HCG runs out?
Does that mean we have to come off TRT?
I’m with defy AND also dr lipshultz here in Houston. So i have access to both providers if that helps.

 

[Nelson Vergel]

So what’s the solution once my HCG runs out?
Does that mean we have to come off TRT?

No. What this means is that from now on, all compounding pharmacies (all of them) will no longer be able to make and sell hCG. Lipshultz and all doctors (with a license in the state where the patient lives) will be able to call in an hCG prescription to a local pharmacy (CVS, Walgreens, etc) for brand name hCG.

I predict price increases and supply issues soon.

Empower is honoring refills until Nov 4, so contact your prescriber.

 

[Wolverine]

What brand? I guess I’ve been living under a rock because I didn’t even know that Pregnyl was discontinued earlier in the year. So that leaves only one manufacturer still making this stuff, right? Seems like they are really just doing away with it all together, which is pretty concerning.

I just got Pregnyl a few weeks ago.

 

[Phil Goodman]

I just got Pregnyl a few weeks ago.

This is the only source I could find, but I’ve heard from others that they’ve discontinued production. I hope this is incorrect so if anyone could confirm whether or not it’s true it would be helpful.

Information release: Pregnyl® Discontinuation

On 25 February 2021, Merck Sharp & Dohme, manufacturers of Pregnyl® 1500IU and 5,000IU, released a statement informing the health sector that they were discontinuing supply. It is anticipated that the Australian supply will run out in August 2021.

www.healthymale.org.au

On 25 February 2021, Merck Sharp & Dohme, manufacturers of Pregnyl® 1500IU and 5,000IU, released a statement informing the health sector that they were discontinuing supply. It is anticipated that the Australian supply will run out in August 2021.