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37yr old male suspected low t got tested and is in deed low 212, put myself basically on prescribed clomid 3 weeks ago, doing better but not good. first ENDO appointment tomorrow need advice to i dont go in "unarmed"
not against TRT but really dont like idea of lifelong commitment but this is really affecting my lfe in a terrible way. please help.
Ok,
little back story... in the begining of march I was really sick, took OTC allergy medication and couldnt sleep
(also had a sick 2 year old and I work rotating 12 hour shifts, so sleep deprived as it was) ended up staying up 4 days straight and wound up in ER with suicidal thoughts and depression (no history of mental illness)
they sent me away with xanex and benadryl to help sleep, went home took benadryl and didnt work.. took xanex and slept 14 hours... next day went to family doc and he put me on SSRI zoloft... took that for 18 days and it made everything worse, crazy anxiety, depression and more insomnia which he just threw more sleeping pills at... tried them all and they had little to no effect.. had to take leave from work.. took my self off the zoloft and with in 3 days felt considerably better but far from 100%... had to continue to take benzos to sleep along with mirtrazapine.. sleep got a lil better (4-5 hours broken).. crazy mood swings tho, i could feel my mood literally shift within minutes..
Finally a guy at work pulled me aside and said have i had my testosterone checked? i said no.... which led me to research low T and pretty much had all symptoms... Went to doctor and had them run a T test... came back at 212 (range 175-750) which put me at normal.. im 38yrs old.... I argued that it wasnt even close to what my level should be for normal, along with symptoms.
This is where clomid comes in..... 3 years ago me and my wife were trying to have a baby and failing.. so we went to fertility doc. I had low sperm count and motility so he put me on clomid .25mg twice a week. I took the clomid... and 3 months later we had a successful conception.. stopped clomid. I never put the two and two together til I had test results showing low Test. after lots of research and talking to friends that were in the AAS world it seemed logical to try clomid first especially since i have taken it in the past with no ill side effects. So i go to doc and try to get him to prescribe clomid... and he didnt even know what clomid was.. Thankfully he agreed to talk to an ENDO he knew and would get back to me.(i was very assertive and desperate. this issue was affecting all my aspects of life and was very scary.. he called me on the phone on the way home. He spoke to endo and she agreed it was worth a try and had a 50% success rate using it. I also had him give me a referral to see her.
OK sorry for the book...
OK we are about 19 days into taking clomid 25mg every day (missed two doses) Im feeling ALOT better..
sleep is better but not perfect weaned off priscription sleeping pill since starting clomid took last 2 nights ago
anxiety is way less, havnt taken a benzo since 2 days after starting clomid.
depression is alot better... it was a 8-10 before clomid now 2-4.
still fatigued, some yawning but energy has increased a little bit.
one symptom that has remained since day one is ear ringing. loudest when relaxing but annoying as hell!!!!
Not much for libido.. but never really had much of one.. which makes me think i was low t whole life (late puberty, higher voice, not much body hair)
Erections before clomid took a min or two to get it up, now its better but still a lil sluggish..
morning wood... I always thought these were something you got in your teens and then never again...havnt had morning wood in a LONG Time. but now on clomid last few days been getting them again. again learning alot about male health i never knew about!!
SO now that you read my book...
I have my first ENDO appointment tomorrow and wondering what i should be prepared for and what i should ask/test to be done??
I only got a 30 day supply of clomid and im scared i run out i was "crash" and be back where i was square one? (i cant go back to that place it was very dark and not good)
these are test i believe i should ask for tomorrow based on my reading thus far... any input would be great!
test
Test total =
Free test =
LH =
FSH =
DHEA-S =
E2 sensative=
SHBG =
Hematocrit =
TSH =
free t3
free t4
my stats
37 male
195 lbs (was 217lbs back in march before this ordeal..lost 22 lbs from this)
never really lift weights, try to stay active but my job as a equipment op has made me lazy)
suspected low T whole life
Concussion from motorcycle accident in 2010.. not sure it plays a part but figured it should be noted)
please any insite.. the ENDO is a female so not sure how that will play.. took me 3 weeks to get in her and as im sure most in here Time is of the essence to get me at least back to functional...
R..37yr old male suspected low t got tested and is in deed low 212, put myself basically on prescribed clomid 3 weeks ago, doing better but not good. first ENDO appointment tomorrow need advice to i dont go in "unarmed"
not against TRT but really dont like idea of lifelong commitment but this is really affecting my lfe in a terrible way. please help.
Ok,
little back story... in the begining of march I was really sick, took OTC allergy medication and couldnt sleep
(also had a sick 2 year old and I work rotating 12 hour shifts, so sleep deprived as it was) ended up staying up 4 days straight and wound up in ER with suicidal thoughts and depression (no history of mental illness)
they sent me away with xanex and benadryl to help sleep, went home took benadryl and didnt work.. took xanex and slept 14 hours... next day went to family doc and he put me on SSRI zoloft... took that for 18 days and it made everything worse, crazy anxiety, depression and more insomnia which he just threw more sleeping pills at... tried them all and they had little to no effect.. had to take leave from work.. took my self off the zoloft and with in 3 days felt considerably better but far from 100%... had to continue to take benzos to sleep along with mirtrazapine.. sleep got a lil better (4-5 hours broken).. crazy mood swings tho, i could feel my mood literally shift within minutes..
Finally a guy at work pulled me aside and said have i had my testosterone checked? i said no.... which led me to research low T and pretty much had all symptoms... Went to doctor and had them run a T test... came back at 212 (range 175-750) which put me at normal.. im 38yrs old.... I argued that it wasnt even close to what my level should be for normal, along with symptoms.
This is where clomid comes in..... 3 years ago me and my wife were trying to have a baby and failing.. so we went to fertility doc. I had low sperm count and motility so he put me on clomid .25mg twice a week. I took the clomid... and 3 months later we had a successful conception.. stopped clomid. I never put the two and two together til I had test results showing low Test. after lots of research and talking to friends that were in the AAS world it seemed logical to try clomid first especially since i have taken it in the past with no ill side effects. So i go to doc and try to get him to prescribe clomid... and he didnt even know what clomid was.. Thankfully he agreed to talk to an ENDO he knew and would get back to me.(i was very assertive and desperate. this issue was affecting all my aspects of life and was very scary.. he called me on the phone on the way home. He spoke to endo and she agreed it was worth a try and had a 50% success rate using it. I also had him give me a referral to see her.
OK sorry for the book...
OK we are about 19 days into taking clomid 25mg every day (missed two doses) Im feeling ALOT better..
sleep is better but not perfect weaned off priscription sleeping pill since starting clomid took last 2 nights ago
anxiety is way less, havnt taken a benzo since 2 days after starting clomid.
depression is alot better... it was a 8-10 before clomid now 2-4.
still fatigued, some yawning but energy has increased a little bit.
one symptom that has remained since day one is ear ringing. loudest when relaxing but annoying as hell!!!!
Not much for libido.. but never really had much of one.. which makes me think i was low t whole life (late puberty, higher voice, not much body hair)
Erections before clomid took a min or two to get it up, now its better but still a lil sluggish..
morning wood... I always thought these were something you got in your teens and then never again...havnt had morning wood in a LONG Time. but now on clomid last few days been getting them again. again learning alot about male health i never knew about!!
SO now that you read my book...
I have my first ENDO appointment tomorrow and wondering what i should be prepared for and what i should ask/test to be done??
I only got a 30 day supply of clomid and im scared i run out i was "crash" and be back where i was square one? (i cant go back to that place it was very dark and not good)
these are test i believe i should ask for tomorrow based on my reading thus far... any input would be great!
test
Test total =
Free test =
LH =
FSH =
DHEA-S =
E2 sensative=
SHBG =
Hematocrit =
TSH =
free t3
free t4
my stats
37 male
195 lbs (was 217lbs back in march before this ordeal..lost 22 lbs from this)
never really lift weights, try to stay active but my job as a equipment op has made me lazy)
suspected low T whole life
Concussion from motorcycle accident in 2010.. not sure it plays a part but figured it should be noted)
please any insite.. the ENDO is a female so not sure how that will play.. took me 3 weeks to get in her and as im sure most in here Time is of the essence to get me at least back to functional...
