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    Test P improved TRT, libido still at 0 – what next?

    Looking at the Enclomiphene subreddit it seems like it's very much hit or miss. It works for some and doesn't for other, including with libido. While it's clear that it's not the greatest solution to low T, I think it's worth at least giving it a try, if you're a younger person and have...
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    Test P improved TRT, libido still at 0 – what next?

    Yeah I don't get it either. I could understand having low libido or having it fluctuate through days or weeks, but it being at a complete 0 all the time regardless of what I try? It's odd, but there seem to be a few men that are in the same position. Some even had libido prior to TRT or for a...
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    Test P improved TRT, libido still at 0 – what next?

    UPDATE 9: In mid November I've been running T cream for about 2 weeks after switching from Test P + DHT. At this point I've also been running increased DHT levels for 6 weeks. It became obvious to me that while this was the best TRT protocol I ran, and had great results, it's not going to do...
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    Switching from Injections to Cream: Time to feel change??

    Cream absorbs fast, I felt its full effects on day 3. After that things remained stable. In your case I'd imagine that your problems come from Test C clearing out of your system. Maybe you don't absorb the cream that well and/or your dose of cream is too low? It would be best to get a blood test...
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    Test P improved TRT, libido still at 0 – what next?

    I looked at the threads on this forum about cream and noticed that in many graphs they present and mention the peak of cream to be 5 hours after the application. Now I wasn't focused on where exactly they applied, though I believe it was on the scrotum, however I don't see any other place on the...
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    Test P improved TRT, libido still at 0 – what next?

    UPDATE 8: In the last month I've been running the protocol mentioned in the previous update, application to the scrotum, 200mg at 9AM and 100mg at 6PM. Everything is still fine as before, no changes, however there are a few more things I wanted to test out, to get a good feel for this. I made...
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    Test P improved TRT, libido still at 0 – what next?

    In my tests with T cream I noticed about a 2.5x higher hormonal levels with applications to the scrotum, compared to the shoulder, so I'd say anything will absorb more on scrotal applications. However there isn't that much space on the scrotum, so applying 2 or more creams would be a hassle...
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    TRT + masteron microdosing for e2 control

    When I was on Test E 125mg/week I tried Masteron and Proviron to "increase" DHT, since it was the only thing wrong on my blood test. Now obviously it doesn't increase it directly it just binds to receptors and the body recognizes it as DHT. First I tried Masteron E at 50mg/week, injected 2x the...
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    Test P improved TRT, libido still at 0 – what next?

    Even if the cream/gel is gritty it will still absorb. Maybe the absorption is reduced to an extent, but it still works very well. But as I have written, I partially dissolve the powder in regular cooking oil in a 1:2 powder to oil ratio. This makes sure that it's not gritty, or well I still feel...
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    Test P improved TRT, libido still at 0 – what next?

    I haven't tried it, read about it a month ago or so. However it seems getting such things in the US or UK is quite simple and trivial, but for Europe I cannot find any sites. We don't have any "specialized" sites that would sell peptides or various "gray zone" chemicals. It's also quite a niche...
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    Test P improved TRT, libido still at 0 – what next?

    For a couple of weeks I even added 20mg of Pregnenolone and DHEA daily along with HCG, but it still did nothing. My E2 is always good, you can see my updates and see that it's never even close to being high, some might even say it's a bit on the lower side compared to T. When I used standard...
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    Test P improved TRT, libido still at 0 – what next?

    I've been using HCG for years now. When I was on 600 IU per week, split into 2 doses, I tested my DHEA and Pregnenolone levels and they came back towards the top of the range. I think these two hormones are usually a problem for older people, thus the need for supplementation. When I was off HCG...
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    Test P improved TRT, libido still at 0 – what next?

    It's basically just adding powder to a cream base. So the cream base already has everything in it for it to be a proper cream. Preservatives, emulsifiers, moisturizes and protects the skin, etc., but it contains no active ingredients. I just bought a medical cream base via Amazon for about $20...
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    Let's Settle This: Subcutaneous vs. Intramuscular Testosterone Injections

    I think that's pretty common with a "virgin" spot. I had redness and pain upon touching where I injected, but eventually this stopped happening. Occasionally I had a "flare up" at a certain spot, but it seemed to me like I either injected too much liquid for that spot, as I was quite lean and...
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    Let's Settle This: Subcutaneous vs. Intramuscular Testosterone Injections

    There is nothing to settle in the IM vs SubQ debate. From all the threads I've read it seems like there are two groups of people: Those who have better results on IM and those who handle IM and SubQ the same. So technically IM is the "safer" option, in terms of results, but many still prefer...
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    ED issues with TRT absolutely lost and local doctors dont seem to have any answers.

    While getting Estradiol isn't that hard it does require some additional research. If you're somewhat familiar with UGL websites, then you can easily find Dianabol and try out how you feel with higher E2 levels. I never said anything about long term use, nor would I recommend it. It would be...
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    ED issues with TRT absolutely lost and local doctors dont seem to have any answers.

    If you're on TRT you can very easily bump your E2. You can try Dianabol, which is a very common steroid that likes to raise E2 significantly or you can just buy Estradiol Enanthate, it's not hard to get and it's extremely cheap.
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    Test P improved TRT, libido still at 0 – what next?

    They send from Australia yes, obviously it has to go through customs and how difficult customs are in your country, I don't know. It was easier to get raw powders and the home made creams are of better quality than what you're going to get from any other providers. The ointments that are full of...
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    ED issues with TRT absolutely lost and local doctors dont seem to have any answers.

    Well I gained all this knowledge, because I had no choice, but to go deeper. Unfortunately I have fixed my hormones now to a high degree and have massive symptom relief, other than libido, so it works quite well. Overall there is no pride or ego in this knowledge, I'd much rather have great...
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    ED issues with TRT absolutely lost and local doctors dont seem to have any answers.

    OP had a problem with his TRT protocol, he had results, but were inconsistent due to the "crashes" he experienced. I provided some information and a plan to hopefully help him dial in. I didn't see a need to go in dept about lifestyle or thyroid hormones or anything similar as I think someone on...
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    ED issues with TRT absolutely lost and local doctors dont seem to have any answers.

    All of these substances can be injected with an insulin needle, I've been doing so since the beginning of TRT. Yes, you can do SubQ, I personally inject SubQ and prefer it, good spots are the belly, love handles and ventroglutes. Ventroglutes are also a good spot for IM injections and it's far...
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    ED issues with TRT absolutely lost and local doctors dont seem to have any answers.

    I don't think it makes sense in using HCG if you're having Estradiol issues, as HCG is known to increase it to a good degree. You should find what works for by using the least amount of substances, adding other substances should be done after you stabilized the protocol you currently run. Also...
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    Androgel Not working

    The only problem is with the amount of Testosterone you're applying. The skin absorbs only about 8-14% of the Testosterone via dermal applications. Most men who successfully do TRT with topical solutions usually use about 100-400mg of Testosterone per day. Typically 10% or 20% (100mg/ml or...
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    ED issues with TRT absolutely lost and local doctors dont seem to have any answers.

    The problem is that TRT is very individual, I'm sure that what you've done would have helped many people, but it doesn't work for you specifically. In this case the doctors are lost as why doesn't it work for you as it does for others? I'm the same way and in our cases we have to think and...
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    ED issues with TRT absolutely lost and local doctors dont seem to have any answers.

    Honestly I think you're just messing with too many things at the same time. From one change to another you switch ester, dose, HCG, no HCG, AI, no AI, etc., it's hard to figure out what's going on when so many things change. It would also be good to check your DHT on injections to see if it's...
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    ED issues with TRT absolutely lost and local doctors dont seem to have any answers.

    You said you tried different esters, doses and additional compounds (like AI), can you give us a chronological list of all your tried and the doses, to get a feel for what you've been doing? Overall it doesn't seem like your T:E2 ratio is off.
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    Test P improved TRT, libido still at 0 – what next?

    I have added DHT levels at trough in update 7, the company forgot to send them yesterday. I've been running increased DHT levels for almost 6 weeks now and there have been no libido improvements. I think I can safely say that DHT won't fix my libido issues. Having hormonal fluctuation and now...
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    Test P improved TRT, libido still at 0 – what next?

    UPDATE 7: Over two weeks ago I traveled for a full week. When I was on Test E I just took an increased dose on the day of departure and everything was fine. Obviously now that I'm on Test P that is no longer possible. I was traveling with a plane so of course I would've preferred to avoid...
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    Hair turning curly/wavy on Testosterone

    I started TRT when I was 25 and I had a perfect hairline back then. Within a year I lost some hair on the side and it has stayed like that for years now. It just seems like my hairline matured. In many cases you see guys starting to have a mature hairline at 22 and up, for some it happens...
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    Hair turning curly/wavy on Testosterone

    Same happened to me with TRT, went from completely straight to quite wavy, but I like it. I checked on this a couple of months ago and saw that hormonal changes can cause this, so TRT is the likely culprit.
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