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@UCFguy01 how did your experiment end up? I’m currently considering the same thing. I’ve got some 25 mg enclo on hand.

I currently just started trying this myself. I had switched from test cyp to test prop a few weeks back to try that out (I have low SHBG), but the PIP was starting to get to me big time. I saw this thread and figured I would give the nandrolone-based protocol a try. I do have some prescribed...

I've also tried using nandrolone (NPP or Deca at different times) along with my TRT. My test dose has ranged over the years from 110 mg a week up to 200 mg a week. I've tried different amounts of nandrolone with the test, from 70 mg up to 200 mg per week. I also can say that it has a negative...

I was done taking the cream by the end of July. My bloodwork showed that my test was pretty high around 1500 ng/dl, but my DHT was way off the charts. I'm not sure how it works exactly, but I've read that DHT can somehow "displace" estrogen, which is why Masteron (a DHT derivative) was...

It's been over two weeks now since my last injection (feels like I'm making a confession to a priest), so I'm going to get bloodwork tomorrow. Very interested to see where my test, E2, and DHT are at. My libido has been higher on the cream, and I'm not as anxious on it now as I was in the...

I'm 5 days into switching from 2 years of daily test cypionate injections to 200 mg/ml compounded cream at 2 clicks AM and 2 clicks PM (to the scrotum). I was pretty excited to try this after reading all the comments saying it gives high energy, high libido, etc. Many people even saying it...

Interesting, my clinic just shipped me a script of enclomiphene this week and it arrived today. I've never taken it yet, but after doing research online, I was wondering how a compounding pharmacy would be allowed to provide a substance that hasn't been FDA approved.

I have been on TRT for 2.5 years now, and I also notice the same thing. I actually just thought of this today. I haven't been drinking much coffee in the last 2-3 months, but just started having cups recently so I should be wired off it, but I barely feel anything from it now. I would also...

The pharmacy is Brooksville - Brooksville RX | Custom Compounding | Retail Pharmacy According to the bottle, their formula is (per 1 mL): 100 mg test prop, Benzyl Benzoate 0.195 mL, Benzyl Alcohol 0.02 mL, Sesame oil

I tried test prop as well with ED injections 20 mg. I did not feel sluggish at all, in fact it was quite the opposite. I had quite a bit more energy than I did with cypionate. I would inject at night, and waking up in the morning felt more like it did when I was in my 20s. However, I had to...

I can say that even after only 5 days, the positive effects on erection quality were there. So if it's effective enough in my system to cause that, then I'd say it would also be able to cause side effects. Back pain is still hanging around, last dose was yesterday morning. Hoping it subsides...

I just recently started Cialis at 5 mg daily 5 days ago. I'm trying it mainly to help with blood pressure. However, I'm getting significant side effects. Facial flushing, indigestion, and constant back pain (sciatica). I'm going to have to drop it. I may take a second pass at 2.5 mg a day...

Just curious, where does this form submit your personal information to?

If they were somehow successful in banning the compounding of testosterone, I could see a large number of people turning to underground labs and "pharma" grade testosterone. It's incredibly easy to get. But who really loses here is us, since the quality control from underground labs is much...

I struggle with low SHBG. I've felt best on higher doses of test versus lower, but controlling E2 was always an issue due to the lower SHBG. I was hoping to use nandrolone as a partial replacement or stand-in for test so that I can lower my test dose and not have to take an AI. My joints...

I've recently added prescribed deca to my protocol at 120 mg a week. I am 3 weeks in, and not quite sure how I feel about it yet. I can't be positive, but it does seem to be causing some lethargy. Hard to say for sure since we are heading into winter here and the shorter days always tend to...

This is crazy, I've been reading stuff all over the internet about Oxandrolone for a while now and I never came across anything that said it crashes E2 like this. This might explain why when I ran it for 4 weeks I felt very lethargic and lost my libido. I will say that I did get labs done...

I have low SHBG (12) and I tried proviron once before I ever had my SHBG tested. I did not like the way it made me feel. I suspect that it caused my already-low SHBG to go even lower, which had a negative effect on me. I did not get any libido-enhancing effects from it.

Interesting that one of your enanthate formulas was sesame. Did you feel the same on both the grapeseed and sesame enanthate? Now I'm even more curious if you were having a reaction to the sesame oil like others.

Did you happen to see what the carrier oil was for each? I'm wondering if the cypionate you were getting was using an oil that you were just having a reaction to, or a mild allergy. So far I've been using cypionate in grapeseed oil and haven't had any issues. However, tomorrow I'm adding in...

That's really interesting how you feel better with enanthate vs. cypionate. I thought the half life of those two esters were very close to one another. Enanthate is a slightly shorter ester from what I can see online. What kind of sides effects do you get with cyp that you don't get with...

With being on test for just 4 weeks, I would imagine you still even have some endogenous testosterone floating around inside you. Once you're completely shutdown and your levels stabilize, then I'd get retested. Did you go to a TRT clinic that prescribed 200 mg a week? If so, good choice in...

I also have low SHBG. Last labs had mine at 12 (on a scale of 10-50). I've only been on TRT for a little over a year, but have experimented with various protocols already. For a long time I was only daily injections at 20 mg a day, but I've recently switched to injecting 60 mg every 3.5 days...

The reason I say several times is because I've been trying to stay off AIs completely since I started TRT a little over a year ago, but I don't think I've taken a low enough dose of test yet to get there. Even when I take 20 mg test cyp daily, my E2 floats in the mid to upper 50s. I am going...

My goal is to eventually be on TRT without an AI. Whether it's Anastrozole or Exemestane, they each make me feel weird in one way or another. But at my current test cyp dose of 20 mg daily (with low SHBG), my free E2 tends to get high without an AI.

I would say it probably depends on your injection protocol. Are you injecting just once a week? If so, you may want to consider more frequent injections with lower doses per injection. You said you've been on TRT for years so maybe you've already tried this. I will say one thing though...

@madman Thanks for the replies. I can't disagree with anything you've said. Including the reluctance I have to give a much lower dose a chance. I know it's something I need to. I think my next move would be to drop down to 16 mg daily (112 mg week total) and see where I end up on that...

I also have the same issue with SHBG. I've been off and on with an AI, tried both Anastrozole and Exemestane. I've noticed that when I take 200 mg/week test cyp (ED or EOD), it's a lot harder for me to crash my estrogen with an AI. When I go down to 140 mg/week (ED or EOD), I have to be a lot...

What are both of you doing as your protocol? Dose and injection frequency? Have either of you happened to monitor blood pressure when on and off an AI? I stopped my AI about 3 weeks ago, and I'm on 20 mg test cyp daily. Sleep hasn't been too bad, but I can't seem to get my blood pressure...

I've been on test cyp for a year now, currently at 20 mg ED (140 mg a week total) and 140 iu HCG EOD. I've also been curious about trying test prop instead. I have very low SHBG (12 nmol/L) which leads to issues with E2 easily. Not sure if prop would make any of that better or worse but I...

I've been wanting to try something like this myself, because I notice the same thing. I keep a log every day of what I inject/take, and have been for the whole year+ that I've been on TRT. I think the longest period of time I stayed steady with a protocol was 1 month. I also have very low...