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not to hijack the thread...but do you guys get the same results with subQ that you would with IM, or have your just been overall happy with subQ and not tried IM? What doses seem to work the best? Starting myself and would prefer subQ, but some guys claim it isnt as good etc... looking to use...

what are some good places to get a script for real, legit enclomiphene? I think with me being secondary, that i'd like to at least give it a shot, before starting the actual shots... what is the ball park price per month for it?

Just curious, has anyone or anyone that you know, went from low T to normal range (even if it's just 500-600) by making significant lifestyle changes instead of TRT? I know everyone is different, just trying to explore every option before hopping on for the rest of my life. I’m 50 lbs...

sorry i havent been on here in a bit... so how long have you been (are you still) on the benzo? How are you feeling now on your TRT? i've put it off and put it off, but i'm to the point of just saying to heck with it, and starting my shots in the morning.

Thanks for the in depth response!!

The lower dose (10mg daily) is my plan...currently have a higher body fat %... should I work to lower it 1st or just start and work on it at the same time? Will being fatter keep subq from working as well?

My body fat is currently over 25% at 6’4” 268... would you lose weight first if you were me, or just go ahead and start?

How do you get a trough and peak when doing daily? Just curious... thanks!

14mg per day would max out what i'm currently prescribed, so i'm actually hoping that i can get away with using less than that... the least amount that makes me feel good... what are you levels like/how do you feel if you do the 10mg per day for an extended time? That is kind of where i was...

So after talking at length with my doctor yesterday, I will be doing daily sub q injections, starting on Monday. For those of you who do daily subQ and testosterone only (no hcg or AI etc), what daily dose do you use, what daily dose do you feel best at and where does that put your numbers? He...

what all do you use in addition to the enclomiphene? What clinic would be best to go through to try it, if my doctor isnt wanting to go that route?

I am U.S. based, but not being really up to speed on such things, I don't see my doctor doing that, honestly. What's the success rate of enclomiphene for secondary guys? Any common side effects? How long do you have to use it and what dose?

I would be willing to give that a shot, but have no idea how or where to get enclomiphene... And yes, the E2 is accurate...my level has been right in that area for a few years, while low T

Hello all... I got my yearly blood labs back today and am looking for some input... From what I've been reading online, it looks like i'm secondary? FSH is 1.46 LH is 3.54 Total T is 269 ng/dl Free T is 57 pg/ml SHBG is 23 D3 is 27 Free T4 1.01 ng/dl TSH 1.96 uIU/ml PSA .8 ng/ml...

with the lower SHBG but daily shots, it would be great if i could hit similar #s and feel good at say 9mg daily = 63mg weekly... be even better if i didnt actually need anything but lifestyle changes! thanks for your help, man!

ive seen some people say that you CAN boost yourself naturally with lifestyle changes etc...and some that say it is a waste of time trying... i dont feel "bad", i just want my #s to put me in the normal range, so that i dont have any health issues related to low t, honestly

the main reason i was thinking daily, is it would be easiest to just make it part of my daily routine... my wife has diabetes (at 30 and not overweight at any point in life, just genetics) and has to take 4 subQ shots per day...so i figure 1 wouldnt be that bad in comparison. Do you feel that...

I'm also going to be starting soon (prescribed 100mg per week) but wanting to start lower and see how i feel... do you do IM or SubQ? I have lower SHBG than you, mine was 22 last test...so i was planning to do daily small dose shots, but not sure how low i should start? Any recommendations?

Last summer i had the same thing going on on each inner thigh... was using the same type of meds... had terrible palps every day after the first day or two... i finally made the connection that it was the jock itch medicine! Also had blood labs done while using it, and my total T came back at...

Not to hijack the thread... but i'm also about to start daily subQ shots... have been on the fence about starting for a LONG time, but have been prescribed 100mg weekly T Cyp only, to start, from my Dr...then follow up labs in 8 weeks after first shot... i'd like to take the lowest dose that i...

No worries man, thanks for the reply! And glad that you're starting to feel better again! I still havent started, but i'm really close...just trying to decide what dose to start at... i'm prescribed 100mg once per week, like i'd said before... but plan to split my shots up into daily subQ and...

That’s awesome to hear! Where does that put your numbers? How often do you pin? IM or SubQ? if/when I finally do start, I’d really prefer to use the lowest dose that makes ME feel good. I’ve been between 250-350 the past few years and it’s become my “normal “ I suppose

When you did 90 or less what were your levels? Daily shots?

Thanks!! Helps to hear from people in the same situation for sure. Were you worried at all before you started? What dose/frequency did you feel best on? IM or SubQ?

I know I need to start...also know that if all things are equal, I’d prefer the lowest dose daily SubQ shot that will make me feel good without side effects...t only

Definitely know that it’s different for everyone, just trying to get as much input as I can. Also sorry to hear about the cancer...hope you’re able to come through it as best as possible!!

What kind of dose works best for you? Does the time of day make any difference when doing daily shots as far as sleep etc?

What dose and frequency works best for you?

So, who all has tried both subQ and IM and what difference did you notice? Which do you prefer, and what frequency and dosage gets you to what levels each way?

My doctor will prescribe 100mg test cyp per week but doesn’t like to go higher for fear of liability issues, I think… With that said, I know 100 is enough for lots of guys but not all… If I had to go the clinic route, such as defy, would I be better sticking to shots or does scrotal creams seem...