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they seem to say they do but when you search biologic licenses on fda website - they do not come up as having to apply or having it? it is not a easy license to get. i think they are just see how long they can continue to make it. thats my guess since they have been alerted before by the fda...

Just FYI, gonadorelin is FDA approved. Kisspeptin is the one that is not. https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/cder/daf/index.cfm?event=overview.process&ApplNo=019687

I would think your first consult getting canceled with evolve would be a red flag... you are not even a patient yet and they cancel your appt? would make me guess how hard it would be once you are a patient. trt nation is one of those $99 clinics that use the business model of sub contracting...

Interesting. I wonder what defy plans to use or do about no hcg and what they will be going with.

I was told by peter uncaged md. Said they continue to get hcg from empower until their supply runs out.

I believe Peteruncaged used Empower pharmacy if i am not mistaken?

Defy's main pharmacy is Empower. I have been seeing more and more that Empower is just about done with hCG and have switch to Gonadorelin? Not 100% but this is what I have seen. I am sure it will be off of Defy's site soon.

they don't list it because they are not supposed to be manufacturing it but they still do. but it does seem to be the go to for hcg these days as other pharmacies are running out of their stock pile.

Amazing considering it is not fda approved for compounding and they just had major issue.

I am not angry at all and I am glad someone is pushing back against the FDA and I dont work for either lol just having a discussion. Big pharma used its power to control or try to control the HCG market and it just causes an inconvenience, whether for men on TRT like myself or woman. I welcome...

Isn't it true that on March 23rd as much as we do not agree with the new laws and guidelines put fourth by the FDA, the FDA has still banned the manufacturing and selling of hCG for both 503a and 503b facilities unless they have the active license in place which could take years to get. Everyone...

As i have heard as well. But for someone who isnt to keen on the idea of their balls "shrinking" or is still looking to have kids, not sure what to do. With all of these doctors, i find it hard to believe no alternative and now i need to source my own hcg or try to have dr write a script

Well the clinic i currently go through is no longer providing hCG and after this current supply, i am not sure what to do. Everyone i read or everyone i ask, they can no longer get it. I see the recent post by Nelson from Empower Pharmacy, it seems there is a loop hole which allows them to...

Being on a protocol for MANY years that is working great for me, I have made calls to many pharmacies and inquired on many forums on the web regarding any hCG alternatives on the market. We all know that hCG will be coming off the market and supply will run out and it is not going to be...

Thank you for the explanation. you mention everyday injections, is that due to the minimal half life of each of these prodcuts? I was told that i would be looking at 2x per week but i have not received any kind of protocol yet.

After doing some digging since a clinic i know is no longer using hCG, a called a few pharmacies and found out they are going to be offering Gonadorelin and NOT Kisspeptin. Kisspeptin is a peptide and it is NOT approved to be compounded and states like California will not approve it, while...

Is clomid and enclomiphene equal? do you know what the relation to each other?

Hi guys, new here, and new to the world of trt. My doctor is currently putting me on a protocol of 200mg of Testosterone with Enclomiphene. I have done research on enclomiphene but have not found anything regarding taking both medications together? Anyone have an input? Thanks!