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I’ll try, I know empower had generic but they pulled it for “research and development”…

I felt off with enclomiphene, felt bad as I’m tired etc and wanted to badly get back on test plus hcg I took the enclomiphene with my trt of 100 mg a week to try to raise my LH, which after a month it did not I wonder if enclomiphene mixed with clomid would be better, not sure

Imagine the said pharmacy denies the Percocet to the patient because he “doesn’t have insurance.” Same thing happened to me, not sure how the analogy makes no sense. The doc says he can’t write the Percocet because he knows the pharmacy can’t fill it due to lack of insurance

Still is crazy. So they are saying I can’t ever get a controlled substance if I didn’t have insurance? Doesn’t make sense at all. Imagine a surgeon saying I can’t write Percocet for your leg amputation because you lack insurance… Side note: I bought the pregnyl from them without insurance...

They were shaky at first, they told me since hcg was a controlled substance, I couldn’t pay cash, I had to use my insurance. One of the craziest things I’ve ever heard.

I’ve tried gonadorelin for a month as well as kisspeptin and my LH was still zero, all while on 100 mg testosterone per week and my TT was 500.

I got mine from optum pharmacy and fairview pharmacy. Name brand, pregnyl for 120 dollars

Couldn’t find a single compounding pharmacy that has oral testosterone undeconoate (wells, Hallandale, empower etc), anyone have any luck? I don’t think my insurance will cover jatenzo and I won’t pay 1200 a month for it …

I called empower and they said theirs was in research and development phase, but had no idea on timeline

Awesome! How much was .4 ml? You can dilute it many different ways Did your testicles change with the pregnyl?

Why not up your AI and continue hcg mono? We’re your testicles bigger on hcg mono than test plus hcg?

Ok, I got it from Fairview pharmacy in Minnesota As well as optim rx as listed in this thread

What’s your TT and free T? Insurance pay for it?

What’s the general starting of hcg mono? 1000 EOD? I know it’s individual but what’s defy starting protocol etc? Or peoples averages?

Yeah I think his TT went above 1100 on 2000 units of hcg a week…

Crazy you did 4500 and the other poster did 2000 a week and got a higher TT

Didn’t read all 8 pages, sorry, but can you recap if still on jatenzo, dose, labs and how you are doing? Sorry for the laziness

Love to do it mono but pregnyl is 140 for me, and you are doing 1500 3 times a week, that’s 4500 units a week, that’s 70 dollars a week for hcg mono. Or when u say 1500 3x a week does that mean 500 3 times a week = 1500?

Can you tell me which one, maybe they can ship it to me, I have a script... you can PM me etc

@Systemlord Think this actually works? The sublingual variant? Sold by wells pharmacy

Where are y’all getting pregnyl from? I keep looking but wells says back ordered as well as other pharmacies I asked....

Nelson, Do you think nandrolone at moderate doses (100-120) a week would be significantly detrimental to ones health? Specifically longevity and cardiovascular health?

The Depot test is from Pfizer...

But I can get Depot testosterone at empower and wells etc...

I can’t find jatenzo anywhere, I’ve tried wells, empower, Hallandale etc

Maybe I’ll just hop back on hcg and enjoy life

Instead of nasal gel how about the oral testosterone andriol (test u.)

Or get my LH up without worry of the estrogen hcg would cause. All in all I am trying to get as close to natural I guess even though I know it’s not possible

Maybe wean off the T and stay on enclomiphene

I’m on 100 mg a week of test plus 300 units hcg every 3 days ... TT is around 700. Wanting to do an experiment to see if I can increase some natural test going and or increase my LH somewhat. I know it’s prob not going to happen but I want to try it. So I dropped my hcg and added in 25 mg...

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