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Several reasons. It is not trt. Also, I’m sure I don’t have an oxandrolone deficiency and the doses they scribe are 50 mg a day. I’ve tried it and 2 weeks in my hdl sent from 47 to 17. Also, you are missing my point. These clinics write for 400 mg test a week with 50 mg oxandrolone...

Yes, and I love it

I know people who say they have anxiety 20 years post accutane but again, it’s a hard thing to prove. My TT was 384 at age 29, and I wasn’t on accutane

I don’t think they will touch testosterone, too much money to be made. I honestly think they should crack down on trt clinics like FAM who sell fake zomacton, and sell stanozolol, oxandrolone Etc etc

Do you have any evidence isotretinoin causes hypogonadism 22 years later?

Get it through a special pharmacy like Fairview? Did it require a prior authorization?

Does your insurance pay for the med?

I really think Nelson is correct, anything that alters chol and rises bp long term is not ideal for longevity but maybe like in life, everything in moderation, maybe 3-4 months a year of low dose nandrolone wouldn’t be that detrimental…

Just on a side note, most trt docs have a financial gain in writing multiple compounds, they get much more money adding nandrolone and compounds that I think are worthless like sermorelin etc…

Good to hear. These are the discussions I was hoping for. Did nandrolone increase your blood pressure a lot?

Regarding ideal TT, I remember reading somewhere that optimal levels are around 500 for longevity, hard to find studies on that, but what say @readalot @Cataceous ?

We since I inject EOD my results is most likely the mean. Blood work taken on the off injection day

Appreciate the input guys, I am here to learn not argue. My goal now that I’m almost 44 and have 6 kids now is longevity. So y’all answered my first question, zero nandrolone is safest. I know keeping my TT is physiological range is also safer but does that mean 500 or be more like Nelson...

Everyone is different but I was on 100 mg and my TT was 500, so yes 25-70 mg would put me around 250-300 TT

Appreciate it. Seems like you are a bit contentious on the issue…

Damn, that’s 21 mg to 70 mg a week of test! Rather be dead than live a life of a TT of 250-300…

Why’s that? Look up the studies. I’m hoping some experts say otherwise…

Is low dose (roughly 100mg a week or so) safe for long term health and longevity? I like it because I add lean gains and benefit from trt without the added androgens so less oily skin, less hair loss, prostate issues and of course the joint benefits, etc. Only studies I find are how bad...

Good question I combine both and thought last night it may not be a good idea as maybe the preservative ruins the hcg , not sure

This thread gives me hope, if I saw him I would say he’s running 3-400 mg test a week and to know he can achieve that on 100 is impressive and I know he’s being honest.

Last question, think it’s less risky to run it say 300 mg x 12 weeks vs running 1-200 mg year round?

Believe that study on rats that showed nandrolone was 11x more toxic to vascular endothelial than testosterone?

Nelson, think 200 mg a week nandrolone is quite bad for one’s health, generally speaking ?

I’m 43 and think the healthiest approach going toward it exactly that, 100 mg a week plus 1000 hcg. I’m going to stick with this approach! Maybe once a year an 8 week oxandrolone blast, maybe

Looking great man! Goals Any hgh?

Wait! That much muscle on only 100mg of test per week???? What’s your TT and free T?

Your build is what I’m looking to achieve, what’s your current protocol?

Well it’s 10,000 units so however you use it. If I do 300 iu every 3 days it’s 100 days. If I do 2500 a week it’s 4 weeks

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I received an email from empower saying the FDA is cracking down on enclomiphene, anyone have additional information?

The peaks and troughs hours apart can’t be good right? Feel good then feel horrible etc? I thought more of a steady state was ideal?