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I’ve seen other drs also talk about the mechanism of action being responsible for some feeling better on cream vs injections also. because cream doesnt have to be cleaved off from the ester. Over my head but I know I feel much better on cream.

Can you give me The cliff notes of the video lol.

While I know it’s very controversial still. I do believe to some degree that what @RobRoy speaks about with regards to receptors being clogged and edc and all the environmental factors Leading to why some of us need higher levels. I just try and use logic. If I didn’t have these symptoms and I...

as of now I have no side effects from my high dht levels (in serum) I’ve heard more then one dr speak on the fact that blood doesn’t reflect what’s going on in the tissue. I feel night and day difference from injections to cream. So I’m riding with it. I stay on top of all my blood work and...

I had same issue. When transitioning from injections to cream. I assumed my levels were sky high !! They were actually low. now take 4 clicks of atrevis base to get respectable numbers.

How long have you been on the cream. I had anxiety creep back in at first. Maybe 2 or more months. but it went away. Also cream gave me amazing erections. but they started to slow down a bit and daily tadalafil (some times eod) has worked wonders.

I know you said you do not use oxandrolone in practice. But since we are talking about estrogen. Can using it be detrimental to a man on trt. from Shifting the balance of androgens/estrogen ?

I actually am more on your side than not. To be honest follow all the “forums” advice over the years has pretty much been a negative experience for me. I micro managed everything and worried about keeping my levels mid range. Wasn’t until I decided to stop worrying, switched to cream and let my...

if looking at this from a logical stand point. I don’t believe a level of 96 is harmful when the tt is 1400. Could the overall treatment be harmful if blood pressure is through the roof and hemoglobin and hematocrit are running wild? I would say yes. that’s my only true issue with @RobRoy is he...

Check my post above I said the exact same thing as you. However I just can’t get on board with letting your hemoglobin and hematocrit. Go unchecked. If going slightly over the range and not experiencing any side effects. I’ll take the chance. But if you having all sorts of issues and then bring...

I don’t disagree with you one bit On the above post. and will admit I’m just looking for a little short cut. I’m feeling pretty good on my current protocol but just looking to get a little stubborn fat off. I believe I have room to increase my t dose a little bit. And I’m sure that’s a better...

Do you believe throwing things like say “oxandrolone” in the mix can skew said metabolites in an unfavorable manor. Even in relatively low dose.?

If you were feeling good before the a.I. and then taking it causes you side effects, why wouldn’t you just drop the a.I. your estrogen isn’t high For where your t levels sit. Most people believe side effects are “high e2 “ symptoms when it’s as simple as finding the right t dose for “you” all...

Meso-rx men’s health sub forum used to be the awesome back in the day. Kind of fell off a few years ago.

Great post. Some days I’m able to think very positive. And control my thoughts. But I do believe there is a hormonal component to it. A lot of time if I change my protocol or add something in I get these bouts of depression or anxiety.

It’s not that simple. Even though it’s out of system that fast. All the metabolites and hormones it throws out of wack still take time to rebalance. I know it’s not the end of the world but I’m telling you I have ptsd from feeling so bad for so long and actually feeling decent now.

I’m a round about way wouldnt your ”genes” be the reason you feel like crap eating a certain way? I’m not doubting you at all and I’ve seen what carnivore did for my lipids. But eating like that also causes me situational depression. it’s very hard to sustain that way of eating. From always...

I feel the same about your thoughts. And I also feel like I suffer from some kind of ptsd from how bad I used to feel. So when I get any little side effect from trying new things I freak out and get depressed. And I also do believe I’m sensitive to changes in my hormones.that’s why I wonder what...

You’re def not wrong about that brother. And here is the funny part. I had a great up bringing. Great family. Not much turmoil in my life at all to be honest. I literally have no reason to be depressed other than that I don’t feel great physically. I was diagnosed with Lyme at 16 years old (41...

@Gman86 is one of the most genuine members and guy in general I’ve every spoken too. Regardless if he does things outside the box for himself he’s not out here telling people it’s the holy grail and what they should be doing. And who’s to say this won’t work great for him and he lives a long...

Honestly I never had depression till trt. I’m not sure if the shutdown effects me more then others. Ive tried backfilling and it never worked out. I do have low preg levels in blood But preg supplementations makes me feel off. My depression also isn’t terrible. It can be situational at times...

My trys typically run high 100/200 unless I eat low carb low processed sugars I’ve only had them under 100 when doing modified carnivore.

@Gman86 if you can pm me what a typical day of eating looks like for you. calorie wise too. I did well on modified carnivore I’m just a picky eater looking for ideas.

I too was super depressed on clomid mono. When the dose was too high. It was also the worst point in my life mentally. Like you said uncontrollable darkness. I’ll never touch that shit again.

I was depressed on carnivore because I missed carbs lol. that said I always have low to Low normal hdl and high triglycerides unless I go low carb/low sugar. I still can only manage to get my hdl into the 40s but trys came way down into the 80s. However all my blood markers for insulin issues...

I personally have no problems discussing mood meds in this thread. Maybe others do. We have some other good threads in here we can talk about ssri and such also. I’m glad to see you back @Fortunate we share a very similar journey.

That’s the shitty part about depression and anxiety. Despite all the great things in life I can still feel miserable in my own skin. It’s very hard to describe. I’m not a weak minded person when it comes to work and just being a man in general. I get shit done. But I can be very weak in my head...

I too have been dabbling in low dose ssri again. while I do feel it calms me down a bit I’m also less productive at home. My anxiety kind of fuels me to a degree. I keep going on and off them. Luckily at 2.5 mg of lexapro I get no withdrawl coming off. But I feel lazy at home and that also...

I’ll be honest (for the 50th time) I’m not doing “great” just much better the. I was physically. But mentally I’m actually suffering a bit. Low grade depression and No real zest for life. Despite have a great wife two awesome kids and a great career. Trying to dial that part in now.

I honestly had one and that’s what lead me to ”low t”. back in my mid 20s I went on a crash diet and was over training like crazy. i dropped all the way down to 145lbs. At 6ft tall and a medium to big frame. That’s when all my hormone problems started. I was never able to fully recover them. I...

I’ll be completely honest. I kinda wanted “assistance” and not have to go crazy with diet. although All my labwork in regards to insulin resistance look perfect (besides low shbg) I assume I have issues with it. I have to be super strict with diet to maintain low body fat. And I’m kinda trying...