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Intersting product. 3X per day does seem excessive but if it easy to handle (no refrigeration) and absorbtion and resulting levels are sufficent then maybe....... Still going to require HCG so not like needles are going away Curious if E conversion will be less? Last question would be...

I inject EOD sub-q and have great results. Everyone is different.....lower/higher SBHG how fast you generally metabolize, how much you convert to E also super high levels are not always either. Balance in all areas is best. If that protocol is working for you why worry

Been on Methy B-12 now for about 60 days.....I top off my 30ga syringe after loading it with 150 iu's of HCG EOD. It has definitely helped me with energy levels I will look at magnesium also, as with my GI issues i have to take acid reflux drug which hampers B-12 absorbtion as does my...

Never heard of a tolerance issue with HCG. Been taking it for couple years no issues. It does keep the boys from turning into raisins and it also keeps other hormonal issues happening. Sounds like your doc is just scared of it as he is unfamiliar and it definitely requires you injecting...

Ill echo Gene on the timing thing.....it takes a good 6 months and that's assuming that you are dialing in and not missing the mark with either your treatment plan and/or your body is not overly adjusting. It took me a year plus to get things really rolling and even then small tweaks continue...

Have followed a protocol similar to what Gene mentions with excellent results. HCG is a definite must in any TRT regiment

I have autoimmune crohns. I firmly believe there was a predisposition in me for it but the collapse of my systems do to stress allowed it to become full blown and the treatment TRT etc has helped to minimize symptoms and keep it in remission The below info from Dr. Romeo Mariano is a very...

Symptoms indicate you may have high estridiol Have you had it tested? (ultra sensitive essay) depending on your SHBG and you may need less. Many of us need AI to help control E Also are you taking any HCG ?

Amen Gene, PDE5i is hit or miss.....trimix is a gurantee and within a couple minutes.....no planning no hoping Real deal Thanks Bro!

Nelson Here's what i use. From lowes less than $100 black 1.7 cubic ft http://www.lowes.com/pd_153941-33112-HCR17BG_4294857965__?productId=3691816&Ns=p_product_price|0&pl=1&currentURL=%3FNs%3Dp_product_price%7C0%26page%3D1&facetInfo= Works great keep it in my bedroom closet just for my...

Orrin. Needles are no big deal...l.wife needs to game up on that one should it become necessary. No different if you became diabetic Gene is correct. HCG is a necessity

I did compounded T-Gel for about 6 months. First it worked ok but very soon numbers and symptoms worsened. I increased dosage and frequency twice per day!! Ultimately even at higher levels and frequent numbers sucked. Moved to sub-q injections EOD and never looked back. Big fan of low...

My SBHG is 20 I inject about T-cyp 40mg EOD. 150ius's HCG. But it depends on you.....I am a hyper metabolizer on most drugs Also take a huge amount of supplements.

FYI been doing that way for almost 2 years.

Yes I inject with both T-Cyp and HCG every other day.....fairly low dose ( I have low SBHG so I burn thru it quick) and it keep me right at top of range I also take arimedex EOD to ensure estradiol doesn't go to high All injections done sub-q

Clint more often you inject the less you can use and that equates to more stabile levels and less conversion to E. When you dump in big amounts your body can't use it all so some gets converted to E which is self defeating. I inject EOD and levels are great......also you may be able to use...

Every two weeks is a recipe for feeling like crap as half life of Cyponate is 6 days. Also IM injections are old school, painful, difficult and possibly problematic Sub-Q injections every few days is much preferred. If your doc wont consider it.....time to find doc #5. Also should be...

Either side has been ok for me. But there times when it seems far more effective then other times....but regardless unlike the hit or miss of oral meds it always works. Twice a week seems ok a rule though I can say I've done it more than that on the rare vacation week etc. Only fear I...

Agree with Gene high dose infrequently is recipe for failure. Also it speaks volumes as to the competency of your Doc. Personally I would find another. Knowing your body and your labs is key what's your SHBG etc. I inject EOD sub-q as I have low SHBG and that's what works for me. Trt...

I wasted my time with varying levels of clomid hoping for restart etc. numbers came up with high dosage and dropped as tapered.....but never did I really see symptoms improve with clomid Find a good Doc and look for a good protocol going. Clomid isn't it

I wasted my time with varying levels of clomid hoping for restart etc. numbers came up with high dosage and dropped as tapered.....but never did I really see symptoms improve with clomid Find a good Doc and look for a good protocol going. Clomid isn't it

Chris Where can you get this test? Also I've had my standard thyroid test and it cam back normal

Nelson Ive tried the mindful and it helps temporarily but not enough to give consistent lower levels. I suspect that I've created a new norm for my body and therefore I'm revving hard even when things are fairly calm. Soon as I have anything that induces more fight/flight (specifically...

Hey guys.... Check out this article..... http://www.hcplive.com/articles/Test...ight-or-Flight I think this is definitely contributing issue to my hormone issues Had huge amount of stress from job, sick kids parents and failing marriage. Even with all resolved accept marriage my body remains...

Clint Gene is right on at 30 assuming no known reasons Doc should trying to fin underlying cause of low T prior to treatment I had and Endo try very similar course of action basic labs and here try clomid and hope it helps......if not feel lousy and get a penis pump along with some Viagra...

Yes Gene the keys do help......if it were not for those small distractions of job, family home etc. I would be there full time and very relaxed. That said many of us being type A and just to wound naturally and need desperately to tune down is there anything that can help other than...

So what is the fix/help for someone who is expirencing large amounts of stress and the typical natural remedies don't be seeming to help sufficiently?

I use a 27g 1/2" for sub-q T-cyp injections in belly fat. It works very well. Fills easy and injects easy No way would you use it for IM

I've seen greater loss with some of the syringes with removal needle. I finally found a fixed needle syringe and my waste was reduced significantly, particularly when you inject very frequently (EOD for me) I do sub-q but use a 27g 1/2" syringe/needle easier fill and injection then a really...

Dude it's so challenging to get dialed in. I wouldnt risk it for just a little more hardness etc. good chance to loose your other hardness which IMHO is more Important ;)

Gene is spot on higher your levels go more conversion to E occurs and has a offsetting effect also if like me you have low SHBG then you have more bio-available T even at lower levels of Total T As much as we would all like it to be an exact science TRT is more of an art that varies from...