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Are you sure you have type 2? Check out the RADIANT study (ongoing). I haven’t responded well to diabetes meds either except mounjaro and ozempic, but both exacerbated hypoglycemia.

Thanks man. And yes I did see those links but there was nothing to support what you are saying with data (unless I missed it). This link you provided, under figure 2, support what my urologist and chatgpt are saying. It shows that of the 5-8mg T produced daily on non-hypogonadonal men, 5.2% is...

@Cataceous this is what chatgpt had to say about how much testosterone cypionate is excreted unused: “The exact percentage of excreted testosterone after an injection of testosterone cypionate can vary depending on factors such as an individual’s metabolism, liver function, and the dose...

@Systemlord wow dude, I wish I looked like that!! Great job!!! To summarize your experience… outside of the iron issues, do you think oral T was a good option compared to others? Did it ever affect your liver ir kidney function at all?

@john.davidson25 did you end up switching or sticking to Testopel? I’m considering Testopel. How many 75mg Testopel pellets were you getting at each insertion? Did it hurt? Was the recovery tough?

Wow lots of strong opinions here. :D Has anyone had a good experience with pellets?? Anyone??

Well that's good to know! Could you give me more details - why are pellets not the greatest? I was looking at the FDA package insert for depo-testosterone. Maybe I'm not understanding it correctly, but it sounds to me like 96% is excreted and not used by the body: "About 90 percent of a dose...

A urologist I saw recently is recommending that I try Testopel pellets. He was saying to start with 2 x 75mg pellets every 3-4 months. If you divide that by 4 months, that's an average of 1.25mg of testosterone daily. My last great protocol was testosterone cypionate sub-q, 3 times a week at...

This is great, @Nelson Vergel! Very helpful! I would make one suggestion, which is mentioning the type of carrier oil used. For those of us who have had allergic reactions, that is very important information to have. It would also be great to mention the typical or starting dosages. E.g...

DHT especially Andactrim are hard to get and expensive. Have you read about other chemPE routes such as P-Long protocol, halotestin, and high dose hcg? The first is backed by a clinical study and I did have some success with it. The other two are more anecdotal, based on older studies done on...

What kind of oil is it? I’m not sure if that makes a difference but I had good results with subq test cyp compounded in grapeseed oil. Didn’t need an AI. Xyosted uses sesame oil and it is designed for subq specifically. Enanthate comes in sesame oil, while most commercial t cyp comes in...

That is a pretty common form in my experience. Even Defy has you sign one. It probably covers their a**es in case someone abuses TRT and law enforcement investigates the clinic. I wouldn’t fret - just sign it. However it does sound like you need better treatment advice. Try a TRT clinic (I...

I see a lot of posts here from U.S. users stating that “insurance does not pay” for hCG, FSH, Trimix, and even some testosterone products. Although that may be true of some health plans, I have found that coverage is often permitted via prior authorizations and paying close attention to...

Two sets of labs came back low, with total T at 165 and 220. Estradiol is normal but still getting hot flashes. That’s unfortunate… I was really hoping Natesto would work. I saw another urologist who recommended Testopel pellets or Xyosted. Xyosted is a weekly sub-q auto-injector with 50, 75...

Yeah not too sure about Natesto already. First it’s hard to get - there’s not a ton of supply. I do feel good in between doses, BUT I think I started getting hot flashes again, just like before TRT. That can’t be a good sign. Labs in 3 weeks before dr. Follow up. But I’m already thinking I’ll...

Huh, that’s interesting. I haven’t felt that crash in between natesto doses yet, but I probably still have cypionate in my system at this point. Good to know to watch out for it!

@Systemlord what do you mean you felt your natural T took hours to recover?

Forgot to mention: * Will get blood work in mid August to see how it’s working * This might have helped my ED tremendously… but it might just be the honeymoon period. Only time will tell…

Thanks everyone! Yes I tried 30g but couldn’t get the grapeseed oul to get into the syringe!! 29g kind of worked but… 27g was easier. Still, not looking forward to those shots. I decided to give Natesto a try. After a week-long struggle to find it, I was able to get only two bottles- a 20 day...

Hello! I’ve been on compounded testosterone cypionate in grape seed oil for a few months now. It’s working a lot better than cream or gel. However, it’s hard to stay compliant because I truly do not look forward to those shots (0.25mL/50mg subq three times per week with 27g needle). It always...

I stand corrected!

I heard from safemeds4all that corrion - the hcg believed to be the best Indian brand - was discontinued by the manufacturer. However the same manufacturer released ZyHCG. So basically zyhcg is the new brand name for corion!!

hCG is actually used to recover from Test cycles. It mimics LH, so your pituitary would stop producing LH (the hormone that tells the testicles to produce testosterone) While on TRT, most folks get 500iu 2-3x per week, sometimes up to 1000iu. The problem is it can also raise estrogen levels. As...

It’s not pre-mixed (except for hucog). It’s freeze dried and you gave to reconstitute with bacteriostatic water. The actual vials can fit 5mLs of water.

Re: Halotestin, see this study: Fluoxymesterone They used small doses (average 2.5mg/day) in place of TRT. Testicle & penis size increased, and sperm parameters improved. Re: Proviron, see this manufacturer's insert: https://www.bayer.com/sites/default/files/PROVIRON_EN_PI.pdf It looks like it...

Their system is funky some times, especially at checkout. It's better if you email them and ask for a link to pay by CC, which they are happy to do.

I wish I had Quest nearby... but it's almost an hour drive. Too bad discountedlabs doesn't sell Labcorp labs. :(

@Swilsondc I agree, Puretrig seems to be pretty good. I think I feel a strong effect from it just like from Pregnyl. @nikolai269 what brand are you showing in that picture? I can't make it out. By the way, so far I used both safemeds4all and reliablerxpharmacy. The first takes much longer to...

Wish I noticed this thread before... I just opened a poll similar to what is being discussed here. https://www.excelmale.com/threads/best-brand-of-hcg-vote-on-what-has-worked-well-for-you.30332/post-280272

For those of you who have ordered hCG from other countries, especially from India, what brands do you recommend? Have you found anything comparable to Pregnyl? Corion Fertigyn Hucog Lupi-HCG Novarel Ovidag Ovunal Pregnyl Puretrig Sifasi ZyHCG

Yes, both times I took hcg+hmg, I was in androgel. And I was able to conceive. (Cannot recall the dosages). We have two very happy children, one boy and one girl. This third and most recent time, I was only put on hcg plus T, not hmg. I am no longer trying to have kids, just trying to keep...