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I have tried BPC 157 three different times for at least 3 weeks each time and...nothing but money down the drain. I used a top supplier as well. Peptide Sciences.

I have been using cream on the scrotum for a year and am likely to give it up soon as it has had no effect that I can feel. Tried one click, two clicks, for the last 6 months I have been on 100mg of T Cyp a week and one click to the scrotum daily...and nothing. I might as well be injecting...

That makes sense (unfortunately). I wish there was a way around this but I can't think of one other that stopping TRT for a few months and re-starting. with 20/20 hindsight I should have just lived with Low T and never started TRT, especially since I feel like I have Low T anyway on every known...

I had not used it for like 3 years and then when I got some again it had no effect. Just like TRT, except that TRT had no honeymoon for me, either.

Hello- Years ago I had a friend with a prescription for Modalert 200 and one day he gave me one one and I cleaned the entire house and washed and waxed 2 cars on on a Saturday. I use that as an example of how well it worked, this is not something I would take every day, just on the occasional...

That is impressive! I am getting to the point where I have some chronic joint pain and back pain so I hope to try it after my next Defy consult. I generally don't feel anything from anything on my protocol so I have my fingers crossed.

I don't want to get too far off-topic, but have those of you that added Nandrolone felt any benefits?

That is the thing - I totally agree that getting thyroid dialed in is key - yet after 3 years working with Defy I had to bail on it as we were out of options that we had not already tried.

I gain fat super easily as well so I try to avoid simple carbs but I am not strictly cutting carbs and attempting top cut, although I probably should be. At this point I am not expecting to gain much lean mass or a ton of strength, but I can't even recover right from light workouts, much less...

If a doctor doesn't understand that you need to wait 4-5 weeks at a minimum before judging the success or failure of a T dose change then he/she is not someone that should be a TRT provider. For real.

Not to be purposely obtuse by answering a question with a question, but how do you feel? I ask because if you feel good on your current protocol then it doesn't really matter. Of course if you are trying to get dialed in then, yes, it would be best to understand the differences in these tests...

Serrapeptase and Nattokinase help with inflammation and pain. I get them on Amazon. Its probably not going to totally eliminate your pain, but it should help and its cheap. Might be worth giving it a 30 day trial and see.

Dead for days after lifting sounds like how I feel. I do each body part once a week because I cannot recover enough to do any more often and I am often still sore after 7 days. I know my macros as well and I meet them almost every day so its not like I am stuffing my face with junk or eating 1/2...

I take daily Cialis and it might help a bit...I say that because if I go without for 2 weeks between shipments I don't really notice much difference.

If you have morning wood and can lift weights you are doing better than me. I still lift but to no end as I don't recover well at all and I haven't been able to make any progress in years. May I ask what protocol you are on?

My temp averages 97 as well. Folks at Defy were always asking me if the thyroid meds were making my heart race or making me anxious...but it literally had no effects that I could feel. And my temps still averaged 97. My symptoms were (and still are) that TRT had no positive effects, plus overall...

Yes, I was on various doses of T3, T4, both T3 and T4 and finally Amour Thyroid via Defy Medical and none of it made any difference that I could feel so I am off thyroid completely now - which feels the same as when I was taking 120mg of Amour daily.

Armour Thyroid 120mg daily.

I have tried combinations of injectable T Cyp + cream, injectable T Prop + cream, cream alone, in various dosages and feel no better. Low SHBG person, so in theory this should have helped. I know the combination works well for some guys.

I have tried various types and dosages of thyroid for 3+ years through Defy and none had any effect that I could feel except for a lighter wallet. Now back off thyroid completely.

If you are feeling great as-is, then no big need to test. Its good to know SHBG as a reference sure, but if the protocol is working, don't break it.

I am trying it as well and I will post again in a month or so when I get new blood work.

Low SHBG is something that those of us that have it would not wish on our worst enemy. We struggle to feel any benefits from TRT even if blood work looks great "on paper." Aside from the rare unicorn, none of us here on the forum with SHBG at 15 or lower would describe that as good.

You are one of the lucky ones where TRT really delivers. Many of us never get the results that you have even after years and trying every known protocol.

You can get it on Amazon both in bulk powder and capsules. I tried it for 2 months and it didn't do anything for me, but your results may vary.

Interesting data, yet I constantly see guys with low or even no libido on TRT on this forum and other respected TRT forums. That has been my experience as well. Also of note is that many of these guys are on smart protocols so its not always just a, "He's on a bad protocol so no wonder he has...

If your Total T is above 1000, then 39 is not really high E2. That would be High E2 if your total T was like 600-700.

Its not likely to solve the libido issue all by itself, but a once a week shot is an out of date protocol for the most part. Your T levels will be more stable if you take half your weekly dose every 3.5 days, so like Monday AM, and Thursday PM. What is your AI dose? A little goes a LONG way.

Peptide Sciences I too am trying to repair some shoulder issues with a combination of BPC-157 and TB-500. Its only been 3 weeks and it *might* be feeling a bit better. Too early to say for sure and its likely going to take a fair bit of time.

Perfect, thank you!

Fantastic information, thank you very much!