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The dht increase should definitely help you even on that low of a dose when applied scrotally

Start doing 3-5 day fasting every few months and eat in at 2-4 hour window daily and fast the other 20-22 hours. Fasting is the easiest way I know of to lower igf-1 and it’s free. And like xqfq said, metformin is very cheap and easy way to lower igf-1 as well.

I understand your frustration man, but I wouldn’t shun that ******** for anyone wanting to learn more about the compounded cream imo. I get that there can be wacky ideas from some people, just like there is here. But you get the experiences of hundreds of people on the cream, access to many trt...

This is a big reason why 25 mg a day is MOST LIKELY going to be too low of a dose. That dose will not last long enough in the body to provide proper symptom relief in my opinion, even if you time the peak just right and get upper range lab numbers. I love experiments though, I can't wait to hear...

I totally agree with you on this bro, no way in hell that dose is high enough. Might have decent libido with that protocol at the very most.

Well you're motivated which is 90% of the battle, eating healthy and exercising isn't always fun. Do you do any extended fasting for autophagy? I've been doing 5 day fasts quarterly for a few years now to remove senescent cells

yes sir, that's the one! we are a lot alike in that regard, if I had the time and money I would be running labs on myself every few weeks. It's not just that I'm obsessed and/or overthinking everything, I genuinely love learning about hrt and experimenting on myself, same with nutrition...

I appreciate all the little experiments that you have done with the cream bro. I know I've seen you on another forum, Gerry?

I am overthinking the cream for sure, but most of us do overthink our trt or we wouldn't be on here. Bro, talking to the pharmacist I can assure you that making the cream is much more easily screwed up than you think. Like I said in my first post, it's more likely than not that I am a poor...

I do want to let it be known that I absolutely love the care that I get from Defy Medical, true professionals that actually listen to you. I know that they are in the process of finding another pharmacy besides Empower and Hallandale. Would be awesome if there was one that us cream protocol guys...

I agree with you brother, but my strength and body composition is definitely not as good as when my numbers were higher with injections. I think that my body just absolutely loves the dht boost, maybe because I was on accutane for a few rounds in my younger years, not sure. But to be fair, small...

that would be just a one hour difference, shouldn't effect my levels all that much, especially with the doses that most are using at one time scrotally (100-150 mg) prior to blood draw. I know that Empower has a good reputation, but the creams are just becoming "mainstream" for lack of a better...

Just want to know how guys are currently doing that are on cream only protocols and what numbers everyone is getting for total, free, and dht on labs. I just recently got 755 total t, 21 free t on 3 clicks to the scrotum 4 hours prior to blood draw. I might just be one of the rare few who don't...

What were your levels and/or symptoms when using the compounded cream from Hallandale? Why do you prefer the cream from Empower?

I'm interested in what blood work results you get from the cream. I too have felt amazing on the cream, but according to the blood work results, I do not absorb very well. I applied 3 clicks all to the scrotum about 4 hours before blood draw and had 750 total t and 21 free t. I'm getting my dht...

How does the Medquest cream vanish into the skin? I usually have some dried up cream on my sac hours after application, and I always am careful about doing everything properly. Maybe a different base would work better for me

I have a lot of respect for Dr Nichols, seems like he goes the extra mile for his patients. He is not well respected on this forum though. I like how he makes whatever pharmacy he uses independently test their products. I spoke with a pharmacist at Empower and she said that Empower does not...

Is Keith Nichols your doc?

Good point, thanks for the reply brother

Does anyone know if Empower Pharmacy has 3rd party testing on their products? I only ask because I am a member of Keith Nichols ******** group and he talks of how most compounding pharmacies make inconsistent testosterone cream batches and he chooses Medquest exclusively because they 3rd party...

At least get your dht levels tested on your current protocol, as that is the missing libido/erection link for many. As far as fatigue, it could definitely be thyroid function, at least it was for me. I hope you get some more help on here brother, I have felt pretty great my entire time on trt...

There was a study done on dht gel on the penis to increase penile size. I believe it was done with children though. I bet that if someone had some malfunction with 5 ar conversion it may help, but I definitely wouldn't bet the farm on that. It would be a more physiological way of achieving...

Super interesting post, thanks my man

Have you had your dht levels tested? If not get dht optimized at the upper range. You could try compounded scrotal cream as many on here do, or source some proviron.

Dr Steven Devos (Lifting Dermatologist) has a ******** group with plenty of guys on there who have been using scrotal cream for many years. You would get a lot of feedback if you joined that group, its called trt and hormone optimization I believe

My estradiol is usually in the 60's or low 70's and my libido is borderline rape like.

I use my finger to apply to my scrotum, but I use the applicator to apply to other parts of my body if I decide to apply elsewhere. I remember Jay Campbell saying that he just applies cream to the base of the scrotum, bot sure how he applies 3 clicks to just the base lol I have to smother it...

It appears that the laws regarding access to telemedicine will be voted on next month if all goes well. I truly hope that you are correct though, telemedicine through Defy is so damn convenient.

I'm not sure why, but I really do struggle shaving my scrotum. Not trying to hijack the thread and I made one about it already, but that truly is my only real complaint is shaving my balls

Compounded cream and am very dialed in and feel amazing on a consistent basis. My only complaint is the ingrown hairs on my sack, but that's just because I suck

Why would this not be discussed in a public forum? This could potentially prevent the majority of us on here from working with Defy if I'm understanding the literature correctly. Between the FDA and DEA, I wouldn't be shocked if a lot of us had to go underground for our therapy in the future...