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Just curious on what’s the smallest dose trt’rs are using in their protocol. Not the guys trying to have kids , just guys keeping the plums from atrophy. I’ve been taking 200iu e3days .

There are two manufacturers of perrigo, one in US and the other in Portugal (same Hikma pharma as cipla) I assume maybe US manufacturer could be the one under dosed?

For those that used perrigo, did you make an adjustment to correct your levels? or did just 86 the perrigo. I would guess around 20-30mg week would be needed.

Yep I hate giving those crooks money but their test is legit dosed and painless to inject.

I had the same issue with perrigo and Cipla after running pfizer for years. My total was down 200 ng/dL. My pharm can’t get it anymore. I will be trying Hospira next.

SHBG on my preliminary labs was 38.3 16.5 - 55.9 nmol/l Total t 389.2. ng/dL 264.0 - 916.0 Free t 10.0 6.8- 21.5. pg/mL Current SHBG IS 25 10-50 nmol/l

How do you feel? Don’t stress too much over the numbers. That’s a typical e2 level at 140mg a week. start with lowering your t dose some if your are sure you are having side effects from estradiol. Other wise , let it ride.

How old are you bud? You were pumping out decent numbers naturally. especially if you’re middle age. Looks like you could have fixed a lot of your issues lowering your SHBG. I’m not gonna cast stones. My total was 280-320 when I started at 44. I felt no low t symptoms but figured I was missing...

Typical twice week split is for example Monday morning and Thursday afternoon. Every 3 days is best for me but is a little harder to keep track of due to the days constantly changing. IMO 100-120mg week total is as high as some would need to go . Most can go lower 80-100.

How do you feel? Are you getting any sides related to high estradiol? Nelson has a chart on this forum for estradiol levels related to trt test levels and you’re right on the money for that amount of t you’re taking. What are your test levels at that dose? I would imagine total would be close to...

You could always give it a go around lab time and remove any questions on placebo. The numbers will tell you straight up.

That seems about right for that dose especially if your on hcg too. When did you draw blood in reference to timing of your test dose? 35-40mg every 3 along with 250iu hcg every 3 days puts me at the peak of the upper end of the range. 100mg every 4days is 300mg within eight days. That’s a...

Got it. Thanks for the clarification.

With e2 in 40-50 range I get no gyno sides. I mean I have very small lumps behind my nips that can only be noticed by touching for them. However they will flare up when e2 or prolactin go up. i have an ai anastrozol 1mg. I’m paranold to take it from all the horror stories I hear. Not sure how I...

I just learned about it on this thread. Unfortunately I’m too lazy to find it for you. Maybe a few pages back. Not sure if it’s true or not but if I understand correctly , some folks are switching to deca as a base because lowers shbg hence increasing free t hence needing less mgs of t...

Igf is at 164 52-328 ng/ml gyno is not visibly noticeable nor can I really feel it unless my receptors get lit up. thanks for the heads up on nova.

I’ll post this here since it’s relevant to the op . So this is the second time this has happened to me. The first time I Just dropped the deca , ran nolva for a month and everything went back to normal. I’m a month in to adding deca to my trt. 40mg test c e3days 40mg of deca e3days Hcg 200...