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Out of curiosity. I take growth hormone hormone and I want to see how it compares as the combination has shown to be the safest and closest to taking growth hormone. I like the idea of "pulsing" with these peptides. What was your pre/post IGF-1 level in ng/ml?

May I ask pre-post IGF-1 levels?

@Nelson Vergel How is your experiment going with tesamorelin? Have you checked your IGF-1 levels?

Have you checked your labs to determine your IGF-1? Subjectively speaking, what are you experiencing? How long have you been taking this combination?

Im not a fan of long term berbeine for safety and on the basis of consistent results. MOTS-c is a AMPK activator and potentially be used to replace metformin, though it’s expensive.

I’ll get back to you.

Did they check your cortisol? This sounds HPA related.

Hi eyeheartny, Thanks for your response. It would be interesting to see your next labs in regards to your protocol. It would be great for us to have a look, if your willing to share. On the topic of your protocol dosages, it's exactly what I thought it would be. I agree with Gman, generally...

Yes, I agree. I was on the road when I wrote that response. That’s an important biomarker and was an oversight on my end.

Those are very interesting lab results. Are you experiencing any side effects of excess androgens such as acne or mood disturbances?

Hi there, You can private message me at any point with these questions as well. There’s times I don’t get notifications. Exogenous growth hormone treatment will suppress ACTH to a degree, which in turn lowers cortisol. I suggest you have a 24 hour urinary test performed to rule out HPA...

Hi there, May I ask what were your levels of E2 and free testosterone? I’m also curious what dose of testosterone and nandrolone they recommended for your situation? It’s not that people are going to copy your protocol, we’re all adults here, it’s interesting to see different protocols and how...

Hi @Nelson Vergel, Will you be getting a baseline before your use of tesamorelin? What are your goals with its use? The research indicates that there is a decrease in IGF-1 levels from 26-52 weeks. The decrease is due to subjects dropping out of the study, but possibly some down regulation? May...

Hi everyone, Tesamorelin has become a very popular growth hormone secretagogue and there is limited research and use on this website that I believe we could improve on. The title speaks for itself, in this thread we can discuss anything tesamorelin. If you have any interesting research to...

That’s horrible news... Do you use anything to increase growth hormone?

@Nelson Vergel Have you checked your IGF-1 levels to determine if Ipamorelin is improving your levels? Is so, do you mind sharing your level? Thanks for your response in advance!

Did you do labs to determine your IGF-1 level while on Ipamorelin? I recall you were a non-responder to Ipamorelin from past readings. To answer your previous question, if your IGF-1 levels are not increasing with ipamorelin use, you are considered a non-responder. IGF-1 makes up roughly 66% of...

That's great to hear of your start on growth hormone! Caution should be exercised with the use of generic growth hormone. The molecular weight of generic effects it's efficiency of intracellular activity and may require a dose of double. Please be sure your generic growth hormone is at least...

That's interesting to hear. I've never used them myself and I've always heard the greatest reputation so if that's true, it's very unfortunate to hear. To hear you've been on Empower's compounded t3 followed by Cytomel at the same dosage and it still showed different results is concerning. That...

It sounds like you’re on the right track. Physicians in the field would agree as well.

Madman, I don't know why there is an argument. There are more benefits to increasing dose frequency of testosterone. It doesn't mean that everyone NEEDS to switch, he's saying their are more benefits, which their are. At the same time, even if it was a opinion that higher frequency has more...

I have a bias on Ibutamoren and I'm not a fan of it because it doesn't raise growth hormone to levels of which I'm interested in, it does not burn body fat and causes a degree of insulin resistance. Some physicians will use secretagogues alongside growth hormone to stimulate your pituitary...

I liked this thread. Sokaiya, has provided a lot of great information. At a dosage schedule of 3iu, you should be able to achieve IGF-1 within a range of 400-450ng/ml, possibly higher. If you haven’t taken growth hormone before, I would advice you start low and work your way up in terms of...

I second Nelson on his response.

Hi there, I understand there’s a lot of uncertainly and even distrust since this “rise of scrotum cream” has trended by some of these doctors that have strong bias. One thing for sure though is that lab ranages do matter, you’re lab ranges for prolactin are high which coordinates with your ED...

I take 50mg of pregnenolone and 15mg of progesterone daily, keeping labs between 2.5-3.0ng/mL. Progesterone will help control DHT but as I said before GHK-Cu is also something worth looking into as well. It works better to control DHT and has far reaching benefits.

Interesting, thanks for sharing! In my opinion, part of the reason people feel better on the cream is because of the high blood levels of testosterone, DHT, and varying degrees of metabolic dysfunction being one of the main reasons. 1/3 of the population has metabolic dysfunction which causes...

It’s true, the risk reward ratio is what’s it’s all about. You know this best of all with everything you’ve needed to do to keep HIV under control. I appreciate everything you’re learned and shared! I’m still waiting to hear how your experiment is going with the combination of test. cyp and cream!

Hi wondering, are you wondering about a few things, no worries, I got you covered lol ;) At defy, I’ve read they are diligent about keeping DHT within range. What is your daily dose of testosterone cream and weekly dose of cyp? In terms of inhibiting DHTs action, in my opinion, I think it’s...

lol, come on Nelson, were you joking?! The control is in a group of people not taking the drug. We're also talking about sudden hearing loss soon after starting the drug which is uncommon, even for people listening to loud music lol. Risk of sudden sensorineural hearing loss in adults using...

Hi Nelson, Are you concerned at all with taking low dose phosphodiesterase type 5 inhibitor's with their connection to hearing loss?