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Ask any hardcore body builder that’s combined deca with test how it affects hair loss and erectile disfunction.

Hope you don’t like your hair because you won’t have it long lol

Yeah they have the 10ml vials but it’s like $200 as long as you don’t mind the price. A 10ml vial will last me nearly half a year

Westward just seems more even keel to me it’s hard to describe its like the peak isn’t quiet as noticeable but Pfizer is still very good. I’ve seen several instances over the years of guys having to back their dose down when switching to pharma test. There’s going to be plenty guys argue they’re...

I wanted to bump this post to see if any new members have dealt with this. I’m sorta out of options now. The Mayo Clinic has told me I beyond any further surgeries or even injections at this point. I can’t find anyone anywhere that’s had this done. They’re stating they only do 100-125 of these a...

Mainly because I pay less than $30 for a years supply with insurance. Another reason is I’ve always been weary of anything compounded that’s injected. Just my own fears I guess. Westward is the best brand I’ve ever personally used but it seems hard to find now.

I totally agree with that. Most of us in our prime never had more than 700-800ng. I had to check my t in my mid twenties due to radiation exposure at a job site and it was 769ng. If I’m correct I was 25-26 at the time and never felt better.

Yeah I’ve never checked peak at this dose honestly. Dr Saya says he does see the accumulative effect in some patients doing daily and eod protocols. For whatever reason and possible multiple reasons, I respond very well to small doses. I honestly think I could do even less. My urologist stayed...

No I don’t use compounded cypionate. Always used westward or Pfizer

This is seven days after my shot on Xyosted 100mg enanthate subQ

Dr Saya had me try eod at one point and my levels just kept climbing like a buildup effect. Dr Saya Said I was clearly a outlier with response. I did 20mg eod and my levels were over 1300ng on cypionate. This obviously is the reason why I can get by with such low doses. I’ve checked my peak 3...

Pardon me, why the fuck would I lie about my labs? What possible fucking reason would I have or anyone for that matter to do so? I’ve been on trt nearly 11 years and I think I know where my labs are. A 100mg per week has my trough seven days after a shot over a 1000ng

That puts my trough number 650-700ng

Im going to ask them about it to see what they think. I really think that’s the missing piece for some men feeling normal just keeping some endogenous hormones going

That’s sorta what I was thinking. Could be the best of both worlds

No 650-700ng day seven prior to shot

Should have worded the post differently I’m more curious if it carries the same side effects as clomid because the side effects from that are atrocious

I was more curious about its use in conjunction with test. Really curious if it would stimulate lh. I’ve accepted that I’m on for life at this point but was curious if endogenous production of lh could improve libido but I’d imagine not.

I do 60-80mg once weekly

That’s the reason many of us use doses as low as 50-60mg per week and do well.

I’d recommend no more than 80mg. I feel my best in the 60-80mg range. I’ve tried as high as 200mg per week and felt awful in every aspect. It’s a lot easier to work your way up then to start too high, get side effects and come back down.

My best advice for you coming from a long term trt user is to start as low as possible and work your way up slowly very slowly.

I thought that was for erections? I don’t have ED and never have

Has anyone tried this for coming off trt? I’d like to hear from anyone that’s tried enclomiphene and what your experiences are regarding side effects and positives. I’m assuming Taylor made pharmacy is the only place in the US to acquire it.

Anything above 1000ng is terrible for me in every aspect. I seem to feel best between 600-850ng

It is man. I’ve been on trt for nearly 11 years and since year 6 I’ve been nearly asexual but feel good otherwise. No matter what anyone says this is a very common experience with trt.

Libido is something I’ve never been able to Figure out after 11 years of trt. No dose, protocol or concoction of meds has been able to correct or improve it. I don’t honestly believe there is a solution long term.

Also are you on trt?

No way in hell would I advise it. It has been almost 9 days and I’m still not back to normal due to the long half life of T4. That will be a one time shot for me. Never again will I ever try any thyroid medication. Honestly I should have known better because I don’t have hardly anything...

Yeah if you think about it that puts us right in the ballpark of natural production levels. I hated the way I felt at higher levels in nearly every regard. I think so many guys that are having issues could resolve most of not all of them by simply lowering the dose.