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I to am ok once I get in the gym. I can get though any work out. It’s the evening or night that is the worst.l once I stiffen up a bit. I too live off Tylenol, ibuprofen, and diclofenac. I’ve tried *** for it’s touted pain relief but it intensifies the pain for me. Like every nerve in my...

I very much relate to this. I’ve put off/ refused surgery for 20 years. Exercise helped for a long time and still does to some extent but more and more I find myself not working out cause of pain, which in turn causes me more pain. Vicious cycle. Sleep is almost non existent cause of pain...

I’ve been dealing with DDD for close to 20 years now. I was told by the VA that “it’s just part of getting old” at 19 years old.

https://therootcauseprotocol.com/iron-toxicity-post-55-ferritin-is-nothing-hemosiderin-is-everything/ Found this in another post here. Thoughts?

In theory, Lowering TRT dose should also lower EPO?

Have we ever figured out why TRT drives ferritin down?

Vit C raises hgb/hct but not Ferritin. It actually hurts ferritin as it suppresses hepcidin from my understanding.

@realdeal1977 For reference, my Total T at the very best was 471 using clomid or enclomiphene. Last test was 501 without anything. I’ve no idea where my FT sits currently though. No idea why this is happening but if I could find a way to add a couple hundred more points to that I’d be very...

I stopped trt cold turkey 8 months ago after 10ish years. My ferritin was always in the 30s on trt. I used @FDV70 protocol numerous times and had great success increasing ferritin, but it would crash again within a month or so. I just had it tested again after 8 months off trt and it came...

If you're trying to increase Ferritin you CANNOT be taking any Vitamin C. It's a very common misconception and commonly advertised that you need Vit C to increase Iron absorption. This is false. Vitamin C with Iron increased HGB. Not ferritin. I raised my Ferritin by 100 points in 7 days...

100mg test cyp per week.

I'll stick by the theory of low E2 yet I guess. Dr. only ordered about half the labs he said he would apparently.

Just got lab results back and I really figured they would be higher using 2 clicks per day based on others experiences within this thread. 1st Lab results for TT were: 482 (242-871) So I ran the same test again 3 days later: 205 (300-623) These labs were both drawn 2.5-3hrs post...

UPDATE: I've been taking 28mg bisglycinate daily since Feb 25th in hopes it would keep my Ferritin elevated. I just ran labs and Ferritin now sits at 58 vs 129 after using FD70's protocol. I have lost 71pts in 52 days. Roughly 1.36pts per day even when taking a large dose of Iron. HCT and HGB...

I've been trying to use a small application site each day. Hoping to keep DHT in check.

Well there goes my theory;)

@Wolverine Let me guess, you've always had lower DHT levels prior to creams?

I've got labs coming up in a week. I requested DHT to be included. I'm going to go the day before and get a TT peak level on my own and then get a valley level with the labs at the doc.

I cannot say for sure as I dont have labs coming up for 2 weeks yet. I'm only on 100mg (2 clicks) vs using 4 clicks like most so I dont think that is the case but cannot say for certain. My line of thinking was elevated DHT causing low e2 but again, pure speculation at this point.

Chest and shoulders m-f and inner thighs on the weekends.

Has anyone experience low e2 using this? I had about full blown panic attack yesterday which in the past has only happened with low e2.

magnesium l-threonate does it to me. More of a not really sleeping, not really awake though. I dont sleep well but MLT made it even worse. counterintuitive i know.

How are you dosing this at 1mg as it states 1 drop is 3mg.

I've been doing the same with minimal results. I have a sleep study coming up as well. Stay in touch @andrewBwinter

What protocol would you recommend to keep ferritin Elevated? Or just monitor via labs and supplement when labs dictate?

Honestly, I didn't/don't really feel any different. Sleep may be just a tad better but nothing life changing at this point. I was certainly hoping for lots more in the way of energy, mind clarity, and sleep. I believe I have read that all that can take a long time to actually happen though...

I used @FDV70 protocol for 7 days. I do NOT donate blood as I do not have elevated Hgb or Hct. I do always have low ferritin though but I was not looking to elevate Hgb or Hct. I ran labs this morning after 7 full days of 84mg ferrous bisglycinate 3x day at the designated times in his...

Doesn't Discount labs use quest now? @Nelson Vergel would not be using Quest if he thought it was not accurate.

1st post you say that you are trying to raise ferritin with Vit C which is counter productive given @FDV70 protocol. Which is probably why it did not work for you.

Ah Gotcha, Would I ever wake up;)

Good to know. I do not plan on using scrotal application. Chest and shoulder is the plan.