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TRT can be a conundrum. Sometimes, I personally take an inventory of what I am trying to solve; I then rank the issues in order of importance and weigh this against the downsides of TRT. What are you trying to solve? If you feel better off, maybe stay off?

I sort of have done this with confusing results. If interested, I can provide more details at some point.

I love the idea of sipping at the drinking fountain instead of taking massive gulps. In other words, small daily injections would seem like they would work best for me. But, for some crazy reason, I get nasty headaches. On the other hand, if I use 50 mg of Xyosted, I barely experience any head...

Hey, man, do you mind sharing in what way the early weeks were rough? I’ve had some ups and downs with cream. I’m curious if my struggles are similar to yours.

Interesting. What country are you in?

@Charliebizz, I suspect you are not having any issues with scrotal application, but I think I recall some saying cream is better than hydrogel for the scrotum because of alcohol. Am I making this up? Does anyone know if hydrogel is "safe" for the scrotum?

Now that I pay attention to this phenomenon, Natesto is one of the culprits. I think (but am not sure) that it's less severe with Natesto. Maybe the overall levels aren't very high and thus the drop is less severe? In the past, I have been on Natesto continuously for up to six months at a...

I hear you. That said, there are tons of threads about sleep. I have had some insomnia issues that, at the time, I felt confident were related to TRT. That said, I am generally under treated these days, so sleep is decent.

Also, I’m curious, how are you decided to do the evening dose? Were you doing that from the outset because you thought you should, or were you doing it because you were crashing and/or feeling bottomed out in the afternoon and use that to alleviate those symptoms?

Yes, I think these are great points. I have actually in the recent past wondered if I made the same assumption that you mentioned. I think being supraphysiologic and being under treated can both feel bad, and it can be hard sometimes to decipher what’s going on without labs. In another post, I...

What time is your PM click? Any trouble with sleep?

Oddly, that is very funny to hear. I am very similar. PTSD from all the bad experiences. One would think that just quitting altogether would be the answer, but that might feel even worse. Glad you are doing well. I might give it some thought.

Is this 20% strength? I assume you’re putting all three clicks on in the morning currently and on the body, not the scrotum? Thanks.

I echo @Gman86. As a fellow struggler, I am also genuinely happy for you. I get what you are saying when it comes to injections. I, too feel like something is just “wrong“ when I inject. I feel less so with Xyosted, but still not perfect. I have tried and tried to make creams work, with fleeting...