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8/2012 Partial labs before clomiphene monotherapy: TotT-336, LH-3.9, SHBG-41, FreeT-8.2 1/2013 Partial labs during clomiphene monotherapy: TotT-757, LH-4.9, SHBG-74, FreeT-10.5 6/2014 Partial labs after 5 months off clomiphene: TotT-523, LH-5.1, SHBG-55, FreeT-8.3 (but taking measures...

Back to DHEA for a moment as I just got some comprehensive labs after a five month cessation of clomiphene to get back to baseline T and E2. Last time I had DHEA-S measured it was 58. My endo interpreted that as ok and within range (49-344). Since that time I have been supplementing with...

Ok, I will give it my best guess since there are no other replies. Maybe the supposed fact that Pregnenalone fills so many other pathways makes it worthwhile on its own no matter what you do otherwise. And maybe since DHEA can be so low and/or be taken beyond RDA limits it can handle a double...

I do know that I don't believe this - at least based on my own experience. If this were true everyone would be popping a clomid tab and enjoying the easy life.

Gene generally mentions taking both micronized Pregnenalone and DHEA as "backfilling the pathways" supplements. I have tried taking just DHEA and then both together. I don't really notice any subjective difference, and have not had any further DHEA blood testing since my initial low result of...

So far in Repros studies, the benefit of expensive brand name Androxal pill over cheap generic clomiphene pill that performs the same function is.......nothing? They really need to explore any subjective benefit to be found by doing away with the zuclomiphene isomer of clomiphene. That's the...

Hysterical, and great advice!

From everything I've seen, you can't get an accurate E2 reading while on clomid, although if you test E2 multiple times on clomid I suppose the results may be relative to each other (I think Defy uses this method). Regarding the non-response of the doctor and/or staff, that can be tricky. My...

Paco, I might consider dropping the clomid. I think it takes at least a couple of months for it to mostly wash out of your system. At least you could see now if there was any subjective difference after awhile, rather than waiting until the end of May and potentially having Dr. L suggest it...

Ok Nelson, thanks for having asked. If you have any influence with them, the question of measuring subjective benefits still stands. Imagine, a pill that stimulates endogenous testosterone production in secondary or tertiary hypogonadal men, AND includes the subjective benefits we all look for...

I have never understood why the Androxal trials require a BMI over 25. They have done this before. Why not do trials of normal-weight people. Are they trying to "game" the outcome in some manner? It would also be nice if they could study and include results on "subjective" benefits, i.e. libido...

I had right-side inguinal hernia surgically repaired in 1998. I recall some research that said normal surgery had better long-term outcome than laproscopic. Of course, that may have changed since, but I would not trade some short-term discomfort for long-term success. I would make sure I had an...

I was getting 15 tabs of clomiphene citrate for 24.00 at Kroger, with no insurance.

I was getting 15 tabs of clomiphene citrate for 24.00 at Kroger, with no insurance.

I had acute prostatitis several years ago. It brought me to the floor with nausea. All I could do was lay there and close my eyes. Urination was extremely difficult and very painful. No way I could have lived with this for any length of time. Took me a couple of days to get medical care as I was...

I did clomiphene monotherapy for about 17 months. Total T ran in the 600-875 range depending on dose level (25 or 50mg EOD). Free T was always below normal due to high SHBG. There was never any noticeable improvement in subjective quality of life issues. Convenient pill, but not the results you...

I did clomiphene monotherapy for about 17 months. Total T ran in the 600-875 range depending on dose level (25 or 50mg EOD). Free T was always below normal due to high SHBG. There was never any noticeable improvement in subjective quality of life issues. Convenient pill, but not the results you...

Also check out Vitacost.com K2. Seems to be appropriate dosing at a good price (and they sometimes have buy one get one 50 percent off).

Maybe SHBG sex hormone binding globulin?

Oh ya, Bass. New "calcium" supplements here we come. Too funny. But may be worth a try if we can survive it :)

Kelly, I tried Nettle Root and Avena Sativa. Neither one seemed to help. On the D, I'm taking 6000iu daily and D levels seem pretty well optimized at 60.

Exactly. Actually, he prescribed Actonel (328.00 for 3 months), which is way expensive compared to generic of Fosamax (12.50 for 3 months). I had to get him to change it. So much for his nice gifts from Actonel :o And I did mention that T would assist with bone building but he did not seem to...

Anyone know a good trt doc/clinic in Dallas/Ft Worth?

Thank you, Nelson. As it turned out, my endo denied the cabergoline due to my prolactin being at 4 before I ever started on clomiphene 16 months ago. We have no idea what it is at today since he did not test it again. He denied the danazol and wants to refer me to a urologist for that avenue. He...

Quick question as I head to my endo. If I wanted to use a compounded T cream or gel (total T at baseline would be around 300), what prescription would I ask for (not sure my endo knows about T compounding). My insurance may not cover Testim gel. Also, what dosages/days of Cabergoline (for...

I just read a research note on ergo-log. I have clipped the summary below and also comments from a Torifene user: SERMs boost T levels in men only Doping experts knew it already, but it's always nice when their views are confirmed by science. Anti-oestrogens like clomiphene [the active...

Sure would be nice to be able to use a secondary hypo but still functional HPTA with the simplicity of an AI or clomiphene pill. I agree symptoms don't improve even with the raised T levels. Sure would be nice to see a study on this. I am still surprised that Repros has not put out such a study...

I have been on clomid over 1 year, no problems to date with any adverse vision issues or anything else. Total T levels have been 750-875 and free T only up to about 10 due to high SHBG. So, T is up, but the bad news is I feel no different with subjective issues than when my T was at 259 or 337...

Dave, what libido difference did you notice between clomid and trt? Also, did you notice any increase in penile sensitivity when on trt vs. clomid?