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    Unable to get HCG... Is HMG an option to prevent testicular atrophy?

    Update: As I said before, I'm trying HMG lepori in first place cause I already had it when I knew Ovitrelle could be splitted in microdoses... I've had 4 doses of HMG Lepori, not splitting it but taking one whole ampulle of 75 IU each FSH & LH, every 3,5 days. The ten amp. would last me 5 weeks...
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    Unable to get HCG... Is HMG an option to prevent testicular atrophy?

    1.- "Google it" is not enough, if you don't apply filters and select sources you are more likely to get wrong or outdated information. Yes, you probably can get HCG in Spain: from ilegal steroid sellers, with fake brands and/or drugs of doubtfull origen and quality. I have nothing to do with...
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    Unable to get HCG... Is HMG an option to prevent testicular atrophy?

    Thank you for the infomation. Yes, Ovitrelle is recombinant HCG or synthetic hcg, it comes in 0.5 ml single dose pre-filled syringe, equivalent to approximately 6500 IU of HCG. Then, althoug not impossible, it is challenging to dose it for trt, then, that's the question: Would it be ok to...
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    Unable to get HCG... Is HMG an option to prevent testicular atrophy?

    Would it be possible to dilute the 0,5 ml ovitrelle into a vial with 2 ml of water for injection, so you have a more manageable concentration for dosing? Anybody experiencing that? I'm afraid it could loose some properties with the interaction with water, cause of ph, osmolarity etc...
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    Unable to get HCG... Is HMG an option to prevent testicular atrophy?

    I think I'll go with ovitrelle, but since I had already ordered HMG from the pharmacy, I got it yesterday and decided to first give it a try and see the results, I took the first dose yesterday... I'll keep you updated, today I already see some effect... By the way, my wife is general...
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    Unable to get HCG... Is HMG an option to prevent testicular atrophy?

    Tommy, do you pin ovitrelle every 3 days or less?
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    Unable to get HCG... Is HMG an option to prevent testicular atrophy?

    It sounds good, but I am still concerned that it here comes as ampuoles, not vials, with the 75 IU each FSH & LH, and the manufacturer says: "Each ampoule is for single use and the injection should be administered immediately after reconstitution". I am afraid it could be because it loose its...
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    Unable to get HCG... Is HMG an option to prevent testicular atrophy?

    0,3 ml syringe helps to keep better control on that tinny amount of liquid... Here in Spain Ovitrell cost 50.63 €, but considering that it can be extended up to three months, it is still no expensive...
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    Unable to get HCG... Is HMG an option to prevent testicular atrophy?

    What if buy 0.3 ml insulin syringes and pre-fill the three (or two) bars in each one from the first day, then there is only one time of manipulation, less risk of contamination and you are ready to go immediately for every dose? You can get insulin syringes with incrustrated needle, with no dead...
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    Unable to get HCG... Is HMG an option to prevent testicular atrophy?

    I am happy to know that I don't need to leave my testes behind while on TRT... Now I see I have two options here in europe to face the lack of HCG. Now I am figuring out which one I will take since both are tricky procedures for dosing and administration. (and one is more expensive than the...
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    Unable to get HCG... Is HMG an option to prevent testicular atrophy?

    Cost do is a problem... 10 doses (liquid + powder) of 75 UI cost about 150€. Somebody told me it is possible to extend those doses with good results for my purpose through a period of time of 3 months, which then could be affordable, but the manuacturer says that any remaning amount after mixing...
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    Unable to get HCG... Is HMG an option to prevent testicular atrophy?

    The solution seems to be closer to me! Thanks Vince!
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    Unable to get HCG... Is HMG an option to prevent testicular atrophy?

    It's a very valuable information Tommy! Just starting to work on that idea now!!! Thank you VERY MUCH!!!
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    Unable to get HCG... Is HMG an option to prevent testicular atrophy?

    Now I have found out that 250 mcg of ovitrelle is as strong as 5000 UI of HCG, but it comes in a single dose preloaded syringe of 0,5 ml. How to take 25 - 50 subdoses out of it? I think HCG is out of the market in all Europe, solving this problem with ovitrelle wuold b wonderfull
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    Unable to get HCG... Is HMG an option to prevent testicular atrophy?

    Thank you Tommy. Yes I didn't look at it before, but now I just had a look in Vademecum.es and it is available in Spain, but in a preloaded syringe of 0.5ml with 250 mcg, single dose for a price of 50,63 €. So I don't see it can be usefull and affordable for TRT. Can you give me more info on...
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    Men who are primary and use HCG.

    It is true, If you are primary and lack the testes, then you lack everything produced on testes (except the amounts produced in adrenal glands), but if you have the testes and are primary, many other things may be also affected to some extension at the testes, starting by sperm production...
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    Unable to get HCG... Is HMG an option to prevent testicular atrophy?

    Thanks for your answer! I have ordered some medication from Canada some time ago and it was delivered to me in Spain without problems. But the main issue ordering HCG from abroad is the cold chain that should be kept during transportation. I do not know either if the importation of medicines...
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    Men who are primary and use HCG.

    Men who have had orchiectomy due to testicular cancer become primary, so those in that situation here could give an idea about your question needing to use an AI.
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    Unable to get HCG... Is HMG an option to prevent testicular atrophy?

    I am in Spain, 50 years old. I've been having low T symptoms for a few years, but I was able to cope with it because it was only a "performance drop", until a couple of years ago, when severe erectile dysfunction appeared and I could no longer have an acceptable sex life, in addition to a...
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    Long-term TRT with no HCG - Experiences?

    Nebido, Aveed, Reandron = undecanoato de testosterona
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