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  1. Deleted member 43589

    First post. Can’t get E2 under control, starting to worry

    The saturation point for muscle hypertrophy may not exist, which may be why the top pros are getting bigger and bigger over time: These mechanisms through the use of anabolic steroids and training include: * Enhanced protein synthesis * Enhanced growth factor activity (e.g. GH, IGF-1, etc.) *...
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    First post. Can’t get E2 under control, starting to worry

    I will see how HCG effects me the next time I go test. I have always used 500mg/wk for years but a few months ago just stopped using it. I had a T level in the high 800's with no HCG. Recently I started taking it again. So I will see if it makes any difference. One thing for sure is I...
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    VARIATIONS IN THE RETAIL PRICE OF hCG IN THE UNITED STATES

    That's a great deal you hooked up with but unfortunately I can't get the link to work.
  4. Deleted member 43589

    First post. Can’t get E2 under control, starting to worry

    I get mine in a 10ml vial. You could pre-load syringes.
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    First post. Can’t get E2 under control, starting to worry

    Ok.....I have used the European Nebido suggested (1000mg/90 d IM) dose and the American Aveed dosing of 750mg (750 mg) injected intramuscularly, followed by 750 mg injected after 4 weeks, then 3 mL (750 mg) injected every 10 weeks thereafter. I took the European dose of 1000mg and did the math...
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    First post. Can’t get E2 under control, starting to worry

    I think this study supports what @RobRoy was saying in the discussion with the dermatologists via video; https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6459338/ Abstract Benefits associated with lowered serum DHT levels after 5α-reductase inhibitor (5AR-I) therapy in men have contributed to a...
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    First post. Can’t get E2 under control, starting to worry

    I honestly think most of us posting agree much more than we disagree. Understandably it seems that many in our medical profession, most especially these T clinics make it easy on themselves by applying the cookie cutter T fix on every client that walks in their doors. Most likely this is why...
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    First post. Can’t get E2 under control, starting to worry

    I completely understand. You know I have problem with different esters too. I get lots of side effects with cypionate, little with enanthate and very few with undecanoate. Never had a problem with BS/BB but would prefer both be sparingly used.
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    First post. Can’t get E2 under control, starting to worry

    Its been available on the UG for a while....:-) Many of these guy are very innovative.
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    First post. Can’t get E2 under control, starting to worry

    10g - 10000mg. So at 100mg per injection you will get 20 injection out of a 10ml vial. If we are at 70mg/no ester x 20 = that is 1400mg of test no ester per vial. Anyway you look at it if you have 5 vials of 10ml there is only 2ml of BB in each one so that leaves you with 0.1ml/100mg dose or...
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    First post. Can’t get E2 under control, starting to worry

    Here is another solution....DELATESTRYL, which seems to be a very good option, testosterone enanthate with no BA/BB instead they use sesame oil with 5 mg chlorobutanol (chloral derivative) as a preservative. I knew a few lab guys and the all said that chlorobutanol is probably oneof the best...
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    First post. Can’t get E2 under control, starting to worry

    And I think this is the benefit of having compound pharmacies. At least you can change the amount of BA/BB added to your oils. Even request specific oils. I have heard of quite a lot of people being allergic to BB and BA. The most common ratio is 2% BA and 20% BB. I think both are way to...
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    First post. Can’t get E2 under control, starting to worry

    As you saw from my posting where I put up the old Quest/Labcorp standards before 2017, the goal post has been moved. https://www.excelmale.com/threads/first-post-can%E2%80%99t-get-e2-under-control-starting-to-worry.29854/post-276575 Before 2017 highs were almost 1200 and lows were about 250...
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    First post. Can’t get E2 under control, starting to worry

    Something told me this was the case.....of course common sense told me that. Of all the doctors I have seen post on this board (which are a small hand full) @RobRoy has spent more time here offering help than any. Why aren't any of his clients here? Who knows, maybe they are happy and feel...
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    First post. Can’t get E2 under control, starting to worry

    But like you said, this has not been show in humans. Animal studies valuable for initial screening and understanding but their results cannot always be extrapolated directly to humans. So this is a really cool graphic, but the number of humans who are doing very high doses of anabolic steroids...
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    First post. Can’t get E2 under control, starting to worry

    I always want to give the benefit of doubt. @RobRoy is a practicing medical doctor (fact). I know my doctor after 35 years in practice works 9-10 hours a day 6 days a week and many times doesn't even take time to have lunch. Not sure how much time @RobRoy has to participate in these boards...
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    First post. Can’t get E2 under control, starting to worry

    Exactly! Living proof that we are all very individual. My wife who is much smaller than me needs more of any medication for it to even work.
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    First post. Can’t get E2 under control, starting to worry

    I usually go in early in the morning and try to be at least fasted. The currant one was done on day 5 of my every 5 day cycle before I injected again. The one in 2010 most likely I just went in and have no idea when the injection day was. However, doing TU the half life is so long (~33.9 d)...
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    First post. Can’t get E2 under control, starting to worry

    Right now I am going 60mg of Testosterone Undecanoate sub-q every 5 days. Here is my latest blood word done in January of this year. All lipid values normal WHITE BLOOD CELL COUNT 8.1 Reference Range: 3.8-10.8 Thousand/uL RED BLOOD CELL COUNT 6.11 H Reference Range: 4.20-5.80 Million/uL...
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    First post. Can’t get E2 under control, starting to worry

    AMEN! I have taken large doses and truthfully, I feel the same now using 60mg of TU every 5 days as I did using 750mg of TU every month or even 250mg of TE every week. I feel what I call as normal. I definitely agree there is a point where more is not going to make you feel any better. But...
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    First post. Can’t get E2 under control, starting to worry

    Exactly. We are putting a lot of faith in research, when research findings constantly change and progress. Remember back in the early 70's we had a fear of fats. Saturated fat seemed to be our enemy. So we cut whole milk, cut butter and added more carbohydrates into our diet. Well 30 years...
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    First post. Can’t get E2 under control, starting to worry

    @Cataceous I have a huge amount of respect for you as well. You can debate and give your opinion without making any personal attacks. Xyosted, while they have contributed to research, has been developed and sold in UG markets for a few years now. They have not created magic. Again, this...
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    First post. Can’t get E2 under control, starting to worry

    I just have to post this statement by Dr. John Crisler. Some hyper-respond to a given initial dose, others show hardly any bump in serum T levels on same. Yet when you switch to a different delivery system, on initial dosing, they may convert to supraphysiologic androgen levels. The same is...
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    First post. Can’t get E2 under control, starting to worry

    I am not seeing the magic in Xyosted either. All it is is testosterone enanthhate with no BA or BB. It comes in pre-loaded doses which make it terribly over priced. However, I do prefer enenthate over cypionate. XYOSTED injection is available as 0.5 mL of a sterile, preservative-free and...
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    First post. Can’t get E2 under control, starting to worry

    But then if you don't feel good, what success are you really having?
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    First post. Can’t get E2 under control, starting to worry

    Amen @Charliebizz! If doctors were able to get this TRT treatment down correctly, forums like this would not exist and we would have a whole lot of satisfied men posting here. It is discouraging to see so many men complaining about how they fill and wanting advice. Yet 99% of us are going...
  27. Deleted member 43589

    First post. Can’t get E2 under control, starting to worry

    Oh, I agree with you 100%. We definitely need more information on what is healthy period. This whole TRT business is still in its infancy. I think some of the new genetic studies on how individuals respond to doses of a given medication answer a lot. There are people who get great results...
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    Beta-blocker responsible for significant ED, searching for BP meds that don’t cause ED.

    Yet my cortisol is average and at 68 years old and osteoarthritis in most of my joints, I am lucky to just go to the gym at all. My cardiologist knew the answer to this one, and it he said it was a normal response in the circadian cycle. From 3-4am there is a sharp increase in blood pressure...
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    First post. Can’t get E2 under control, starting to worry

    But then you know I always say start on the low end and titrate upwards until the patient does say, I feel good now doc. More is better only if the individual can safely tolerate more and need it to feel better. Here is another direct quote from a professional bodybuilder: "BUT, pros have...
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    First post. Can’t get E2 under control, starting to worry

    Its amazing so many doctors keep saying the same thing, yet we keep treating numbers. Doctor, I feel like shit all the time and have all the symptoms of low T. But patient, your T numbers are 252ng/dL which is still at the low end of the norm range so you should feel good.
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