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@readalot, lets go with @Gman86 here. Let's critically listen to everything these guys say, and use what's good (if any), discard what's bad. There may be some good in their works, doesn't mean we should not benefit from those things because of the other crap they speak. (I'm not throwing myself...

You are going to burn yourself out. Just let natural selection do its job.

Background: BBs try every imaginable combination of anything they can get their hands on. Many document these experiences of BB forums, and some do the occasional HDL/LDL tests. So that said, I have seen things like 5mg winny a day kill lipids (close to your dose). Surely that cant be good...

Not even hardcore BBs cruise on winny. The most hardcore even cruise on tren 100mg / week, but I have never ever heard of long term winny. Why? Because it trashes your lipids and will give you a heart attack eventually, Do winny as part of your forever permanent protocol and I'll bet you will...

Here's another data point for you: MK677 - not mentioned too much except in passing in the above linked thread. But my cousin is blasting a lot of things as well as using 20mg of UGL MK daily. He is using it for the "side effect" grelin receptor agonist properties (i.e. insane hunger to bulk)...

Go thru this entire thread and you will be able to make a long list of such compounds. Any substance which is of use to BBs blasting grams of tren is surely usable (or at least short term testable) by us, at much lower and safer doses...

@readalot You mentioned a few times in some other threads about your experiance, you observed an inverse ratio for the relationship of T dose vs cognition. I also notice the same thing, be it on a 500mg cyp blast or this 140mg prop experiment, worsening as time goes on. I dont drink much. A...

I had taken a break from the cyp for around 10 days or so, and the prop erections and libido were immediate the very day of the first prop injection. Neither did things improve further as I went along (nor was there room to!). i.e. no "dial in flux period" Sleep did progressively get worse...

Yes, I will shamelessly admit my motives here are strictly TOT and not TRT. Didn't mention this in my post: Around 7-8 of the daily injects were blends of 50:50 prop to cyp (by mg). There was a 4 in a day row of them, and the others random. Immediately resulted in a softer EQ (as was always...

Sometimes I wonder, if this is due to the initial overstimulation of neuro receptors (eg. dopamine, serotonin) from higher dose T which then downregulate or desensitise. Leading to this "TRT depression". (Not to be confused with the alleged upregulation of the AR as claimed by most BBs)

As promised, I am reporting back a summary of my experiment. Objective was deeper sleep. Dose is 20mg daily AM subq into upper bum fat pad. Sleep (main objective): Total failure. Sleep is WORSE than cypionate. Completely decimated. Like using Tren. No issue getting to sleep but waking up 2am...

https://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/index.php?threads/dht-cream-on-penis-grows.174180/

hahahahaha

How's your sleep? Fall asleep easy but it's a light unrestful sleep where you wake up feeling like crap? Ever played around with benzos? (such as diazepam or any other drugs ending in "pam"). If so, how did they make you feel the next day?