300 to over 1,500

Chrispie1027 · Monday at 4:48 PM

Hello all,

38 year old male here. Been on TRT for 4 months now. Started back in September when I got my bloodwork done and my total level came back at 300. Started working with a health clinic and they put me on 200mg/wk. Two injections Mondays and Thursdays.

Fast forward to this past week, where I got my bloodwork done again after my first cycle had completed. My total test came back over 1,500. I am still kind of blown away by this reaction, but the clinic is saying the numbers don't lie.

My question is, is it normal to see such a spike in TEST only dosing 200mg/wk? I am still kind of baffled by it all. To me it seems like a hyper re-action, and even the Nurse asked if I was taking anything else after she saw my results. Firmly and honestly told her I am not taking anything other than the prescribed TEST they gave me at the 200mg/wk dose.

Just looking to see if anyone else has had a reaction like this or if this is normal.

Thanks!

Systemlord · Monday at 5:39 PM

Chrispie1027 said:
My question is, is it normal to see such a spike in TEST only dosing 200mg/wk?

Yes, it’s normal to see levels this high especially on twice weekly dosing because you’re overdosed.

It would’ve been best had you done your research before starting therapy instead of learning your lesson and finding out you joined a T-Mill which rarely know how to manage male hormones.

Cycling is a term used for steroid abusers who don’t have low-T naturally, go on cycles and then come off and back on a frequent basis, hence the term cycling.

simonw · Monday at 6:05 PM

200mg is pretty high for a clinic to prescribe to a first timer, typically 80mg to 120mb/week is what clinic will start at and work its way up. So at 1500 I am guessing they reduce your weekly dosage?

excelnelg · Monday at 9:36 PM

First of all, did you test soon after you had injected or during the "trough" period like you're supposed to? Secondly, 200 mg a week divided isn't necessarily bad, but you can do it every 4 days instead of every 3 if you're concerned or reduce the amount. The success of T therapy depends a lot on how you feel while keeping an eye on certain things. Goal should be to optimize your levels while achieving goals and avoiding any undesirable side effects. High normal is OK if that's what works for you although there are various opinions and experiences including those believe you should use the least amount possible to achieve your goals. And yes it's possible that the reading is correct at that amount, again depending upon when you last injected. It's extraneous and the levels can be adjusted. No need to panic.

chriskchris · Monday at 9:43 PM

I get to ~800 with a dose of 100 mg which is on the high end of the reference ranges in Canada so 1500 using twice the testosterone doesn't seem out of the ballpark at all.

madman · Tuesday at 9:57 AM

Chrispie1027 said:
Hello all,

38 year old male here. Been on TRT for 4 months now. Started back in September when I got my bloodwork done and my total level came back at 300. Started working with a health clinic and they put me on 200mg/wk. Two injections Mondays and Thursdays.

Fast forward to this past week, where I got my bloodwork done again after my first cycle had completed. My total test came back over 1,500. I am still kind of blown away by this reaction, but the clinic is saying the numbers don't lie.

My question is, is it normal to see such a spike in TEST only dosing 200mg/wk? I am still kind of baffled by it all. To me it seems like a hyper re-action, and even the Nurse asked if I was taking anything else after she saw my results. Firmly and honestly told her I am not taking anything other than the prescribed TEST they gave me at the 200mg/wk dose.

Just looking to see if anyone else has had a reaction like this or if this is normal.

Thanks!

You were overmedicate from the get-go!

I can hit a very high trough TT 1200 ng/dl with a high FT injecting 150 mg T/week (75 mg every 3.5 days).

Most important thing her before jumping to any conclusions is how many days post-injection were labs done?

We always want to test at the true trough (lowest point) before your next injections and seeing as you are injecting a whopping 200 mg T/week split into twice weekly injections (100mg T every 3.5 days) than your true trough would be 84 hrs post-injection.

Top it all off that you are missing the most important blood marker free testosterone let alone other critical blood markers RBCs, hemoglobin and hematocrit!

Although TT is important to know FT is what truly matters as it is the active unbound fraction of T responsible for the positive effects.

Chances are with a whopping TT 1500+ ng/dL than your FT will be high/sky-high but again need to know how many days post-injection labs were done.

Knowing where your true trough FT sits is what truly matters.

Unfortunately you were jacked upon T from the get-go which is a common theme here when dealing with those dime a dozen run of the mill T clinics!

Most men on TTh are injecting 100-200 mg T/week whether once weekly or split into more frequent injections as in twice-weekly, M/W/F, EOD or daily.

The majority of men can easily hit a healthy let alone high trough FT on 100-150 mg T/week especially when split into more frequent injections.

Yes there are some outliers who may need the higher-end dose 200 mg T/week but it is far from COMMON as in RARE!

Chances are you will be dealing with elevated hematocrit which is a given especially when running too high a trough/steady-state FT level.

When starting therapy or tweaking a protocol (increasing dose of T) hematocrit will start rising within the first month and will take anywhere from 6-9 months and in some cases a year to reach peak levels.

You are only 4 months in so where your hematocrit sits now is not where it will end up 6-9 months from now.

Need let us know how many days post-injection labs were done.

Again we always want to know where our trough TT and more importantly FT and estradiol sit!

Throw in RBCs, hemoglobin,hematocrit and iron/ferritin.

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